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ROBERT: Well, I would for you to comment on JONATHAN: No more money! ROBERT: HEY! I am starting to get used to it. I would like you to comment on what's gin g on, I sense a lot of great wonderful changes, it might be my imagination, I am spending it like it's. Also, as I showed John today my business plans, the overview includes an urban center and a center in the rural part and actually in the last few days I have beaming about the Blue Ridge mountains, back in Virginia myself. I wonder if you can comment on all that. JONATHAN: No more money, all right. Mountains, everyone wants to go to the Blue Ridge mountains. First of all, let's talk about your business plan, I am sort of puzzled by your business plan and I thought, and I realized you are trying to form the center on rural and urban--- I reason that I am puzzled by it. I like to see an extension on your energy level; more, exploring people's innermost stuff more than physical part You seem to be concentrating on the physical elements and not the spiritual elements, And I realize that you say energy is just one word. I would like to see more classes with the spiritual elements and getting in touch with who you areo I would like to see you develop so that people can have seminars and have a place to relax and have a meditation lounge and have things where people can explore their inner selves, self-projection and out of the body experiences and wouldn't it be wonderful if we can get to the point of having people project their thoughts to a point of even beaming visually on a screen and examining their thoughts. It is so difficult to explore what you feel and what you understand, wouldn't it be wonderful to show people how you feel, how you understand it, this projection of yourselves, focusing their thoughts on the screen. You don't have to say that I climbed the mountain, you can see the mountain and see what it is like to share your experiences with it. And it would be wonderful. I guess that I am going a little bit too far. ROBERT: HA! HA! HA! JONAHA!: I think the ideas are wonderful and I think and know you have to deal with and people have to deal with, you need frills of thought and the things that people have to deal with, you need to have a chiropractor, and It thought a good idea that y our systems need different types of things for different parts of the body, I thought that it was a good idea but I thought it was too physical for me. Well think we need to go; I realize you need the physical part because you are a physical being but by the same token you need the spiritual side too, Learn how to control emotions and get rid of all that stuff, He need that I sense in most people is all this pent-up and repeals emotion that they have, Why do you people have stomach aches, its emotion. What do you think you have pain, ulcers, clogged up arteries, clogged up intestines. It's emotion, that's where it is coming from. If you learn to cleanse the emotional part, the physical part will follow, I sense that you need to do more on that level, but I am not saying your business plan is faulty, don't get me wrong. For now, this may be the need to have your selling point but eventually I like to see the more spiritual side happening, ROBERT: I want to let you know that the policy for Health Energy Center will be on health energy, and my focus will be energy focus on energy devices, energy measurement and all that energy work and of my meetings with people and coaches that are quite affected on the physical ream, it can be very special there too. It can be grounded there. MY thing is it to be energy, JONATHAN: Also, I need you to put it on a higher attitude. It is better if it is on a higher attitude. It can't be a sea level. ROBERT: No problem! (LAUGHTER FROM GROUP) JONATHAN: It needs to be high not only for physical ramifications but also because od the spiritual level. The higher we get up the closer we are It sounds mythological, in a sense the energy changes the heart. So, you get more in touch with nature. That's why the mouth is so benevolent because it is up there. We're in a different world, medium world and we are not update way up there, went way down there with that world where we are in touch with more. We're still in touch with the physical world. And we are also in touch to meditate down at this level because we're close to the spirit and don't have distractions that you have to and besides that you are going to feel worse and detract still. Energy is much more benevolent because it hasn't been whole continent was such a beautiful continent, Now it is such a mess. Now, it I neither here nor there It is just my luck; it is going to change anyway. We'll cleanse it up at that point. like the idea but I like the idea of a dual rural center. ROBERT: Urban? JONATHAN: Dual, D, U, A, L Dual Rural, No Dual! I mean two rural centers. Ok! I am not saying not to have an urban center. Ok! I not saying not to have an urban center, Maybe you shouldn't call it an urban center, maybe urban screening center. In other words, I think you have two rural centers in different parts of the continent, I realize you don't like cold weather, but you will find to like it, and I would have a smaller place because I realize the population is in more urban areas. You shouldn't have the urban centers close to the rural centers, For example, if you are going to have something ion the Blue Ridge area you don't want it in Virginia City! Laughter! OH! There -no- Oh! Richmond City or some other place else! But there are places that people can't go to you. So, you need like satellite places, and these can be your urban centers. But I wouldn't build something in Santa Monica. That is real, extensive, a small one temporarily OK! Are you getting my drift! ROBERT: How about a time? JONATHAN: It is going to be awhile. A few years, around five years or something like that! ROBERT: If I am writing a business plan for a rural instance. JONATHAN: You can build one for now but develop another one. But develop another one. But if I were you, I wouldn't bite off more than you can chew Right now, you can develop one rural center and one urban center, right now you should pick an urban city. Right now, I think you can put your urban center in Santa Monica for a while. PRICE: Maybe you can put it in a trailer! HA! HA! JONATHAN: Some thing that you can move out! Youi know maybe a mobile, prefab property. I wouldn't own the building, lease the building, don't own anything, I wouldn't own anything in this neighborhood but anyway so that's in the works. You need to be really cautious with whom you need contacts. I know you are cautious with that and make sure you don't get stung with that. You know bees do sting, honeybees. OK be really cautious. What you want and what you are going to get and because sometimes we can get stung. But I think things are going for you, things will work out, the money will follow as long as you put the effort in it. It boils down to the same stuff, you know! And you know that you will get through some of the stuff and may get breaks on your health as well. You may shift some of that stuff and it will be more benevolent and that you are working with Linda is going well, even though you need to be really careful as far as the energy goes, what's the word that I want, ah! draining on you. You need to be careful with this energy, make sure the energy levels are high enough to protect yourself. Those are the things that you know about, right! And you need to do that. What else do you want to know? ROBERT: Ah! Let's see I am probably going to call someone tomorrow regarding the message that I had at the public schools, I haven't had a call back. At this point, I have the finances to do it myself to resolve it. JONATHAN: Is it the right answer? JONATHAN: I think the battery is going on this thing. I just don't want you to have an empty tape, PRICE: Thank you. JONATHAN: First of all, let me answer the question. Don't close the doors before they open. So, I think you need to listen, evaluate and decide and then I think that you need to compare things and there is certainly experts that you may need anyway, so you need to see what they have to say. Then you may have the finances, but you may not have the experience, and it may costly to get that experience more than it can cost financially. OK! JONATHAN: What do we have today? ROBERT: Well, wanted to thank you for the very nice birthday card that you gave to me. JONATHAN: Oh, that, that was a pleasure doing that It's the first time I've written a birthday card, ROBERT: It was wonderful. In fact, it was quite thought-provoking as well. Thank you. And I actually wanted to ask you about a couple of things that you said in it Okay, since we have y our presence here, You will say that I 'm here to utilize all the vibrations that are going on since my life is especially vibrant now. And to comprehend the ramifications of my benevolent character as well as possible developments, which might entail some sacrifices, the vibrations that benevolent character and the sacrifices that we're very curious about, you don't think I was too flattering? JONATHAN: Do you know why? Let's talk about, let's first of all discuss your vibrations, I think let's say each of us gives off certain vibrations and currently I think your vibrations are of a very benevolent nature, And when you give up vibrations, you know, each of each entity has its own vibration, and it gives these vibrations often. And when you're receptive enough that you can sort of pick up these vibrations, and this is common knowledge, It's just interaction between people. Now, as we develop, you know, we sort of tried to get our vibration on a higher level And I think what I meant by that statement was that you are starting to attain to attain a higher level. And what I meant to say to you is to keep up the good work and to continue on the higher level, as with anything that you achieve, as a matter of sacrifice, nothing comes easy, things are not here to be totally pleasant. I mean by that pleasant to the senses, through this learning process that we know we achieve certain altered states in higher consciousness, and I think that you have the capability to do that. And I think it's going to take a little more sacrifice on your part to do that, and I think that it's going to take a little more sacrifice on your part to achieve ah, capacity, which you may not be aware that you have. And I'm not talking about something in terms of being exotic are the ramification of that I'm talking about the development of the soul. And when we talk about developing, we're talking about the ability to attain, let's say, some sort of level that is closer to the Godhead than you are currently at. And I think that you have the capability to do that but in doing that, it's going to entail a lot of stuff that you're going to have to work out, there's a lot of karma, there's a lot of other elements that must be worked out before we can really attain. And what I was saying to you, especially in celebrating this day of incarnation, hat you should keep in mind that these days ae especially important for you, since this is a celebration of your rebirth, and the celebration of your physical birth. And it's a celebration of your soul entering into that entity or physical form. So, therefore, it's a very important day for you. And you should be able to concentrate on that day to develop yourself on a higher level to do that currently, but it can be sort of refined and developed on a much higher level than you are doing it. And I think that through meditation, through self-sacrifice, through self-analysis, through to self-realization, you can attain this development at a much higher level than you are currently aiming at. And I think that this day, as 've said before, this day is really very important jn energy wise, it's a day you can capture quite a bit of energy. Now, when your birth date, you birth, these are very sacred days. And by sacred I don't mean in form of some deity, what I mean by sacred is sacred to yourself, these are days when you open up a little bit more than you normally would normally. And these are days that it's important for you to set yourself and develop[p along the fabric of the Godhead and try to ascend a little bit further. And I think by meditation, through astral projection, and through other means that you really know about, but which you are sort of, let's say not fighting, but ort of resisting a little bit, I would think, and I think through these elements, if you conquer some of these obstacles that you currently have, you can achieve a higher and higher level than you are currently. And I think that you know, you have done some of this on the material level through form, how should I say it, through the formation of relationships with other people through the forms on the intellectual level through readings etc., trying to attain a higher spiritual level, but at the same token, there have developed some blockages along the lineo And I think that we need to clarify these blockages. And I think that we should try to, oh, sort of streamline our interface a little bit, you know, it's like, it's like drinking water. We got to clarify and crystallize all fluid within the whole system of the body, And therefore, I think it's your approach and a time that's extremely important for you, not only because it was your celebration of your birth, but also because you are entering a very important era at this point in time, This era js will, oh, how should I say it, would bring forth several beneficial aspects of your whole personality, as you know it as Robert, it would, it would celebrate a lot of the fabric that you have inherited from the other parts of your soul, and therefore, I think it's time for you to blossom more, right now! You're like a, let's say, a rosebush. Okay, now in that rosebush, there are a lot of little buds, but they haven't blossomed. And I think that through propert watering, through proper sunlight, through ample nutrients in the soul of your soul, you will be able to develop, and you would be able to blossom to something that can be as bright and beautiful s a yellow rose. And I think it's your approach in that time, and we don't want that time to sort of wither on the side, we want to, we want you to help to celebrate that time of your life, where you are about to bud and blossom out into this world, that you can develop in such a manner, that it will be quite beneficial not onllu to other personality blockages that you have within your system.

JONATHAN: Any idea that you think you're going to experience perception, loss of loss certainly larger and larger, different areas beneficial blockages are certain. I expect to see some elevations show that want you to continue really, this is awesome. So is trying to crew and the problem is promises spiritual level now to see the little life example this would be if you were to examine every article would be so intense. So, water to shed then and energy so that hasn't happened to you, then it just went to extreme white light sort of devastating completely the same thing. So, you know we can destroy everything, but it's just has to happen, very proud that doesn't show progressing well. Don't I know how difficulty now that you're aware? Experiences I'm sure I don't think so, I think, recognize that, say that selection. Well, I think it's really difficult especially dealing with sometimes you deal with people that are not aware of the situation especially for women tied to events that have generated back that necessarily so saturated that point they have served that purpose up the ladder, I mean you don't stay on the third step, fourth step process and I think that we have to understand what the process is. But this trial as far as trying to explain it to somebody so that there's nothing to explain, But I realized there was a certain etiquette that you have to follow, there shouldn't get there I think being open, we don't want to go out. The reaction because people tend to think in other words if you were to say you have to really shift that. And I don't think maybe if you could explain it on a more spiritual level, don't have something that I realized that this is really a question, especially when some people are attracted to cars even though they don't know what to tell them about it that we're freaked out and so you don't want that to happen, so I think a little be more selective. I would say try to associate with people that don't know, think that's really cautious, attracts more beneficial practice trying to satisfy all. I realized I wish we could do it nice experiencing all the situations, edit cells, don't feel personally. These are problems, problem solving process we start off with. Think, I think you should try to eliminate those things that influence you at all, give yourself, don't have great energy, efficient but at the same time providing a certain set of those needs satisfied but what I am saying here is don't try to force your body to feel, feels right. There's no coffee or caffeine or whatever the mushrooms are, but the whole point is trying to win something is to win, why no matter what it is the same because of the work so I think I would say. Before I tell you let us continue what's happening, we're going through a phase of changing times. What I'm saying pay a lot of attention to those things and the gratitude justifies them, there are other events that are going to happen. This channel is going to fail and we're not talking about a devastation because we already know that right now. It is not for us to know that this may be an area as we approach deadlines. I tried to say something very beneficial for your life and you have to be very careful as we approach the development that there are certain things which I can't say tonight. I don't think by delivering the information would be beneficial. By the way, this decision I think that the channel which is going to permeate your array which is really beneficial to your long run. I know people have excuses or justification of things to take away. We will discuss this later on in real life, I just don't really feel that it's discussed right now. They're trying to give yourself just that stops getting approved. Let's say that you know sometimes you will find nothing stress or vitality so, I think what we are trying to do here causes stress, stressed by talent doesn't try to come to this point where the five negatives are stressed. Stress is beneficial also because it generates the necessity on both sides always says the thing as a complete beneficial. So, that might not have the vitality, what you have to do is you have to utilize the energy and let it go because something changes important because without change nothing happens without change of stagnation. Everything has to change. You're not changing the vitality it is no longer vitality that energy has to be vitality in motion. Take away the motion, stress, stressful complication. Some people have stress so that it's the point that they don't feel stressed because the devil on your back and so you have to deal with that in some ways in the present with the right the spiritual side of the box energy, stress and what you say generally. I know I realized well how we should we say this and utilize necessarily something that hurts you. Well, anyway, I think you are talking about diversification, anyway! You're not just reacting, So, that emotional side is going to take the time to practice, don't wait to practice for a situation, so let's set aside some time. My hands I really can't say too much because the backlash is like growing back, It's because it matters how much. John: we don't want to get ahead of our so go-ahead side,Finally got up to the top feeling that was the first one there but there were others arrested a while and I had to move on don't know what to do with them. JONATHAN: There's symbolism and I think what it is telling you is this. The top of the soul and I think you're going to get up so early you will reach into the top, the top attraction your soul and as you're well aware that we all sometimes have images of perfection. Naturally perfection always changes. Anyway, stabilized, stabilized because he succeeded to print cheap, cheap, and even a lie. So, what it is telling you is that I think that saying is cheap, certain days, recently, one level or another level. So, you have, you have achieved something that few people achieved. And I'm not saying is that you are better than other people that you're not. All I'm saying is what it is saying„ even though you may not see other people ahead of you. But what this perception is insane, if you have reached the point that people are buoying up the ladder, maybe not as fast faced, so it's telling you have to go further up the ladder, you have to develop on a spiritual basis, you are succeeding, it's also telling you that going back to a form of questioning, the last session about relationships that as you develop, your relationships are going to develop on a higher level, therefore, district level we've talked before, and I think at this point in time, this is saying, is showing you the direction you're going into now, when you let's talk about symbolism, and the symbolism of the rock, rocks are very important entity structure. Building the essence of stability also changed. And the symbolism of a rock is telling you that as you build yourself up, you are building a more concrete image. And by concrete, I don't mean on a material plane, in concrete. In other words, you are stabilizing the spiritual entity, you are trying to build it into a more powerful and hurt, deal with any situation. And not on a material level, but ultimately a spiritual level. So, this, these symbols mean that we'll have achieved something so only a few people have achieved at this time. This isn't to sort of boost your ego by that many people have achievements, right now, dealing with the situation you are in the process of achieving this. And I really don't want to compare you o other people because that's what I'm trying to tell you is to give you enough confidence that you're not alone doing this, at the same time that you have achieved something that is very difficult to do. And this is because of the process of meditation, the process of energizing energy, the process of knowing your body knows the systems of your body. Youi have to in other words by practicing some physical entity, physical exercises and physical manipulations, this entail perfects the body, protecting the spirit of the spirit, the body, class the body, get rid of all the excess substances in the body and you have an efficient generating spirit. So, what you do here is have truly years developed on a physical level, which in turn has helped level also and also by the meditation which is the cleaning up your spiritual aspects along with the physical aspect. You are approaching substantial let us say, I'll say a dramatic event is going to happen. But this event will happen in time, that's why I went for drinks, saw the top. This talk symbolizes so when you are ready and I'm not saying you're ready right now if you are ready to scream, I'm telling your lucky post approach that there is going to be a dramatic effect. It's going to be a beautiful experience for you, and you will be able to enjoy as I said before the benefits of it motivation, always motivation ROBERT: With a friend, you're kind of putting energy and manifesting energy into manifesting went in I went along with it we were totally focused on that thing, but I had previously decided not to ever do that because it was almost like a lack of a lack of faith holding off a particular lab filling it out because we do still have to mail it. JONATHAN: The lottery ticket could be beneficial, and I think feel a little how should I say it think you tie yourself up is the right way of this the wrong way because when things happen, they are going to happen, and they may take any avenue that they choose. I think that may generate or cut off the energy by saying well I want to do it this way that way because sometimes it's more beneficial to sort of saying well I like to open up all the avenues of mine and one of them manifested to work which has a chance right anything gets a chance to actuality when people call chance is at a very well-coordinated effort on a spiritual level audit benefits which you justly deserve through different aspects . Now sometimes you may say this person didn't do anything and he got all the money but in essence that person may have worked hard on so every workflow, don't cut dry to open every obstacle in your life Elijah hole. ROBERT: Two questions, I think I'm going to put us together program or two. I'm really overjoyed that has occurred, I can get people recognized this engagement polishing that part of it and then the focus on what they want to know that that's what they should be now the area of question. The other question knows in practice, but even the act of that, okay? JONATHAN: Is that the question? I don't know, very simply. But I'll go all right. They all have different individuals, different, have different conferences, and you have different blockages. And some people, it's much easier to see themselves than other people who have different types of people and not categorize them. But sometimes it takes a while you have to sort of knock down some of these obstacles away, And when you have a general question like that is how do I do this, not to seek to sell and sell people, it's going to be easier to do. Now, if we want to be able to look inside of ourselves and depending on destruction, there, there are various ways to know, and I know other professionals got to make sure that is more professional than showing here's the word religion. So, you know, what we're talking about is getting people to look and want. Now, we have used the tool of visualization before, we used the tool of self-knowledge before, that which we're going to do now we're going to see if we can go to ourselves, everybody can go into themselves. So, far or the other, w he t her the aim is just to go to the ego, or whether to go beyond that point, The only problem with it is that some people do not want to resist the resistance itself, Because it's a threat, It's a threat to the world, the ability to get this in an area very careful with because you don't want to open up some people meliorism in your professional aspects of the situation, you don't want to cause other people to open up So, this is an area that's very, very, an area that has to be dealt with on an individual basis. And I think that there are ways to get around some of these things, and some of these obstacles. They will be minor itself way. And so that which you can help these individuals to take out a lot of time people don't see. So, not first of all, we have to understand the person willing to do it 100%. They're not willing to get off first base. Number two, I think that you have to, once you know what the obstacle is that you have to try to resolve, resolve that obstacle and you can do this through visualization. Helping people, you have to get people to a state where they're receptive, When you, when they're receptive to that situation, then, you know, go through a process whereas a person is going to want to visualize, visualize the obstacle. If you reach point arrested, you're in a passageway, this person, right in front of this person says, I see this blockage right in front of me, I see RSA, it says a stone wall, that you have to convince this person to remove the stone wall If this person can remove the stone wall, nine times out of ten, it doesn't want to remove the stone wall break. So, what you have to deal with the fear of removing the stone wall, once you deal with the fear, remove the stone wall and you open up And there may be other entities and by entities, I don't mean actual physical creatures of the mind, which symbolizes something that they try and to protect. And if you will, if you're dealing with something, you're going to have to go into this passageway and help the person cleanses themselves by perceiving to their inner self. And a lot of times you're going to get resistance; you're going to get creatures that will sort of try to prevent from the exposure of life. Now, another asset is as you proceeding, this can proceed to sell, instead of having the person opens the doors himself, maybe you can have the person visualize some sort of brightness, color of light, to sort of shed away the darkness that this whole area and help us know, as I'm trying to put this thing in words. And what I'm seeing is, it's like being happens. Very dark, very well. Once the light is shed on, it can be quite beautiful. So, it's an act. So, what we have to do is a visualized light, visual light, penetrating this area, in the most bright colors, and that we know that some colors are more beneficial for people than other colors, whatever common person really is comfortable with. And try to get the information out of this person to find out what things that they are more comfortable with; you may have to visualize. For instance, if a person is infatuated with a puppy dog, this might be the symbol of all these different parents. So, what I'm saying to you is you have to sort of feel this person by a series of questions, by a series of new windows, by a series of types of information gathering techniques in order to develop some type of consensus of one person combined with the stuff now and this person likes a yellow color, and she likes a puppy dog and has a puppy dog. I mean, you have to use your imagination you have to deal with this. It's like having imagine yourself being s little boy with a little girl you're playing and instead of playing a lot, you're playing a spiritual game, and you're trying to open up all these little passageways, and these mazes in the same thing. What if we did this? And I think you have to have them do the work really you 're there to open up, help them open up but don't try the fallacy I see right here. Don't get to fall by that, don't get led down the path try to always belly the first field of energy as y you're asking the question what they really feel, That can be quite a devilment and back visualization of that person and trying to look at that person wit the eye that you see the physical trying to feel.

ROBERT: Pretty good. Welcome to our realm. JONATHAN: Give me a moment to settle. JONATHAN: What can we do for you today? ROBERT: Well, I don't know actually. JONATHAN: You don't know? ROBERT: But I have a couple of questions, but I think that I'd rather you talk about what you think is important for us to know. JONATHAN: Juist give me a moment. JONATHAN: Let's say this to you, and we have spoken about this before time and time again, ROBERT: SESSION #104 with John, Robert, and Linda JONATHAN: Good Evening, Robert! ROBERT: Good Evening, Jonathan! JONATHAN: How are we today? about difficulty, that you will endure. In a short while which is necessary to accomplish certain things. Now, I need for you to understand that difficulty is like climbing a mountain and it is not something that you need to get over very rapidly, that you need to let's say But it is something you need to pour yourself into in order to achieve the spirit of knowing you are accomplishing and pursuing this endeavor and knowing you have accomplished in it, it permeates the total soul of yourself and that you have something positive in order to transmute the negativity into positive energy and positive energy is important comfort you to understand because it permeates the whole being of existing. It permeates what you are, it permeates what you will be, and it permeates the total soul of yourself and the planet itself. And I say to you understanding your difficulty, whether this is difficulty in your relationships, in your own personal shall we call them insecurities and faults and melt out these faults and form more perfect relationships because you are able to see within yourself your inadequacies because you and how you can totally immerse in these total inadequacies and how you can deal with these inadequacies in your relationships. Now I saw to you it is important for you to melt away the differences that you have within yourself. It is important for you to understand that relationships are tools so that you can succeed in understanding yourself. Yourself is such a difficult thing to understand. You say to yourself I know myself. But do you really know yourself? Do you really know what's inside of yourself, do you really understand the concept of yourself? Do you have the slightest inkling of what we are? We are unique beings and uniqueness is important to us. Being unique means being totally immersed in understanding yourself. Being totally involved with yourself in the way of being, totally understanding the essences of soul and your being. Totally knowing thy self, totally understanding thyself. Understand what part of you is important to you, develop of yourself. Now, say to you over the years, the ego has developed as we should say, sometimes in positive light, and sometimes in negative light. And sometimes it is important to have an e go and sometimes it is noy important to have an ego. And you need to understand what the ego is, the ego is a tool, just like you use many tools, understanding oneself. And the ego is one of those tools. And especially when you're dealing with a relationship, you have two sets of egos. And these egos mesh sometimes, and sometimes they don't mesh, what we needed to see is a melting process. Let's say for instance, we have two sticks of butter, I have blue butter and I have green butter. Now, the blue butter sits next to the green butter. But we apply a little heat that the blue and green merge together, they are neither blue nor green anymore, they have formed a new individuality, a new persona, a new being, the whole being of what you are. So, in your relationships you need to understand that you are in the process of renewing yourself, you are in the process of totally being emerged in your whole essences, your whole being of what you are. You need to understand that you need to develop in that processo This is a never-ending process. You need to understand that is not a linear process. It is not a linear concept, we do not deal in lines. We deal in essences; we deal in feelings. The feeling of being totally immersed in yourself. The feeling of being evolved in whatever you do. This water bis immersed in itself so you cannot see the immersion of the water. But the water is immersed in itself because it has energized itself. It has oxidative everything about it. It has energized itself. It has oxidated everything about it. IT's totally immersed in its being; it's totally immersed in the essence of itself. And water's energy and energy is essence of life for without energy, there is no life. For without energy, there is no life. For without energy there is no materialization, there is no solidity, there is no time, there is nothing, only energy exists. But energy is the basis for everything, for without energy, there is nothing. But what is energy? That is the question but what is energy? Is it some formula that we might find in some physics lab? Or is it a combination of the elements? No, it's not this, not at all. Energy is spirit, for energy is God. And God is energy. The concept of God is energy. That the creator of all energy is God, and you are a manifestation of God and God needs his manifestations because God is all knowing. But without all His manifestations how can he be all knowing. But without all His manifestations, how can He know every experience without materializing these experiences in always as He materializes His energy in order f or Him, to understand all the concepts that He needs to understand all the elements of what is for God totality, the totality of everything. And therefore, since He is the totality of everything. And He is you, And even though He is nor is He She? But God doesn't need a declaration of what we express ourselves. But in the same token God is He/Sher but God is everything, and energy is everything and what we have here is a benevolence of good vibration, energy and we have to deal, understand energy, for energy is a positive element of God for without energy there is nothing. God is important to you because you are part of God, not a distant relative, God exists with that is why you are unique and that is that you have the capacity of understanding your relationship with God is the most important element there is because you are an expression of God and without this expression there's nothing because you want nothing but an expression of God and when you understand this concept of being a facet of God or being and outpouring of His energy, understanding your connection to and understanding your access to God is not something that is in authority, and you are subservient. Their methodology is known for mythology, the method that you need to understand your relationship with Him on the essences of your own energy and you need to know that energy flows not only forward but backwards. So, the response of God to you is thee. In connection of all the facets of God, there is to response for you are never alone. Loneliness does not exist, only loneliness is null and void, but you are in direct connection withal the energy that exists in God. Your relationship to God is the relationship with yourself. And knowing yourself and understanding your being in your own relationship with yourself and God and we deal with relationships mainly because we try to facilitate our relationship with yourself and God. And we deal with the comfort of understanding yourself. Because we need the idea that we are doing the proper thing and that we are accommodating the proper task, we are doing what we need to do to understand ourselves. As we understand ourselves through many, many aspects and one of these aspects is the interrelationships with each other period by understanding our interrelationship with each other, we are understanding ourselves in our relationship with Godo JONATHAN: Loneliness does not exist only here, only loneliness is null and void, but you are in a direct connection with all the energies that exist in God. Your relationship to God is the relationship to yourself, And knowing yourself, and the understanding you are being in your relationship with yourself, and you can understand your relationship with God, and we deal with relationship mainly because we try to facilitate our relationship God. And we deal with the comfort understanding of someone else, in order for us to feel comfort with the understanding within ourselves. Because we need the idea that we're doing the proper thing and that we are accommodating the proper task. Doing what we need to do to understand ourselves. And we understand ourselves through many, many aspects. And one of these aspects is the interrelationship with each other by understanding our interrelationship with each other, we are understanding ourselves in our relationship with God. It is the first step in understanding yourself. By understanding yourself you open up a whole new aspect of yourself. You open up an avenue of energy flow that flows through you through the pool of energy that exists that we God, because through this pool of energy God enjoys His existence. There is no existence without God, and you would not be yourself if you were not connected to this energy source and nether could any other materializations that could exist, could exist without this energy source. Let say this, if I were to exist and if I were to participate in your reality as I am doing here and if I were to understand myself, I would know that I exist because I am participating in your reality. But do I really exist. Could I be a projection of your being. The image that you see is not there. Does that mean that I exist or not? Or could it be that I exist whether you see me or not? Whether I exist whether you see me or not Whether I exist whether you hear me or not. I exist because I desire to exist! Because I am I desire to exist! Because I am fulfilling my destiny, I am one of the facets of this pool of energy just as you are. And you exist in the many facets that you exist. This is what I sense in front of me is only one of the many facets, You have a multitude of facets se will call you. And each of these facets works together to form you whether it is materialized or not, whether you are totally together form you immune to your surroundings or not, whether you are totally encompassed with your ego or not. The little door in which you participate, and the ego participates is a very, very narrow door. And through this little door the ego maintains itself. But as you grow participation of the ego gets less and less, It is not necessary to prove your personality to others. It's more important for you to understand what is inside of you. What makes up this puzzle we call you? What varieties of you? How many varieties of you are there? Is it innumerable, possibly? T depends on how innumerable you want to be. It depends on what you see in yourself. Energy does not like to be conformed or confined; it needs to be free. It needs to flow; it needs to fit certain receptables. Just like I can take water, I can pour water in a glass, it fits that image that the glass is cylindric. But I can take water and put it in a bowl, then the water is spatial. I can take water and let it flow in any aspect and it is filling any space. Think energy has that it changes, and energy can become positive or negative energy depending on the direction of the flow and depending on what form it takes. Remember you may be underrated by negative energy, but you have the opportunity to convert that negative energy into positive energy. Now let's take an instance, we have a difficult day, we have a clash of personality, we have jealousy we have negative energy that becomes to the forefront and to what do we do our emotions ae failing go wild and we get sucked into this negative energy and this negative energy has nothing to do with you, it's sitting across the room what being sensitive people that you are this negative energy is attracted to you because it sees a hole because it knows as a sensitive person you are open to your feelings, you are feeling the people around you, the negative energy gets attracted to you but the key is this. What do you do with negative energy, you can take negative energy upon yourself and can suffer all the pain and anguish that this negative energy has, or you could turn around and convert t his negative energy into more positive vibration and it becomes a world wondrous about yourself, You can feel these negative barbs just turning their barbs into smooth material melting away the harshness and discrimination that you sense about it. And become totally immersed in yourself, become totally involved with spiritualizing everything as I have stated many, many times to you spiritualize every element of your life whether it's a glass of water, a cup of tea or whatever. Remember that difficulty comes along, you must spiritualize difficulty so that you understand what difficulty isa You understand the positive elements of having difficulty. Difficulty is important for you because through difficulty you accomplish many things not only on the external plane, but also inside of yourself, And all this tarnished image the self-esteem all these little things that jump back and forth, calm things down and difficulty helps you. Difficulty is a tool to accomplish every company war a tool you'll be and you'll be more attached to your soul, become part of you and you take difficult and you take this negative energy that we call difficulty and we take this and pauser positive energy inside of it and we transform this into a flower. One of our attributes is to transform things so that we can benefit, and we take difficulty, and we reap benefits from our difficulties. And we don't pay attention to the negative aspects of it because by that what it means is this, we do not feel the pain of difficulty, we need to accept difficulty, we need to transform it into something more positive, make it into your own garden. Let's say, I find this roots stick in my garden and phooey and I know that if I touch it, I'm going to get hurt, okay but I know also that if I plant this morning stick it may develop into a beautiful rose so understand this with your life, you need to take chances to develop, sometimes you need to take that thorny stick, it may hurt you but at the same token it cab accomplish many, many wonderful things by taking a chance of planting this thorny stick into your soil, understanding what's up is the most important thing that you need to do. Though I must admit that you can never totally understand yourself, and you say why, because it would not be let's say to totally understand oneself means you would have to fill yourself in totality, but you are not totally there. By that I merman as an energy source you are not totally there constantly expanding your energy force. OPK, do at no point in time ever going to be totally involved with yourself because every point in time you are increasing your energy you are constantly changing yourself so you totally can never know yourself because you never reach that point, because you are constantly developing, you're changing and you'll be splitting and stuff like that I don't want to get too involved in all this. I just want to say is this is sure that some time to develop I know this gets a little complicated, but this is the totality of myself. But part of me is developing too, so that at some point in time this part of me may develop on its own, so it's going to separate from me, even though it's connected to me, it forms its own force and forms its own personality and in timer we will be distant cousins. But this at one time was part of my entity but has branched off from me bas I branched off from some other entity and that's as we go along the line so in reality it's real difficult to totally know by our total self because of all the branches that come off you and the ones you constantly create not only on the eternal end but instead of yourself as we know in essence. You move some of yourself and you're learning all the time and besides you need to change, so it is important for you to understand the relationships on the human level so that you can understand the relationships on the non-human level. On the internal world that exists inside which is much more vast on the inside of you than you have here. So, it is important for the interpretations that you have with other people, especially those that are close to you, especially those that you ae merging together. Remember as energy sources you are always in a state of flux, you are changing as you merge together, you change and lose some of yourself and you gain some of them. And as you lose of some of yourself, and you are learning all the time. Besides the interchange here is the interchange from above. Let me explain it. Now the interchange of relationships especially when you deal with love and understanding. So, with love itself you draw energy from other sources just like. Lert me explain it another way. Supposing you have a little cupid on your shoulder, and you have a little cupid on your other shoulder, besides sometimes switching cupids, these things fly around and attract other cupids. And besides as you open up, as you intertwine and fly around, you open up more channels, so this energy starts pouring into different elements. Ok, because you're opening channels up, you're opening ways to understand yourself much better. More than your own resources, more than understanding yourself as a person. More than your own resources, more than understanding yourself as a person, Because you say to yourself, I am this person. These are my boundaries, which is kind of limiting because no boundaries do exist. Oh, you do have this physical mass, this body of yours, but it's really not limiting you. You are expressing yourself through the body. But then there are other parts of you that are not expressing yourself through the body but expressing yourself in other ways. Because your energy mass is much larger than your body, your body only encompasses about 10th of your energy, it doesn't encompass all of you. And if you have a massive amount of energy and the feeling within yourself is so intense about you that you understand the elements of yourself. You understand where you come from and understand where you're going. Let us have an example, if I shone a beam of light from a flashlight, I just said this flashlight there you got a beam of light there, right? Now look at the light, look at the reflections of the light. You don't see just one little light; you see reflections that go on and on like waves. Do you have the original beam? Then you see, look over there. See, You see more reflections over there. Think of your energy that way. You are not just concentrated on the spot or one place. You have waves about you. And each of those waves affect other waves, and you can grow your waves faster and faster? And you may not be touching her right now, but you are touching her, and she is touching you. You don't need to touch because you're wavs touch, OK! And you interchange energy through the touching of waves, So, you understand that! That's why I stress you need to spiritualize everything, water, drink, kiss whatever. Everything needs to be spiritual, you do it to understand yourself for all energy is spiritual energy. Sometimes we lose track of where energy comes from, we lose track of what we are, we lose track of what we will become, for our energy is the totality of ourselves. Now, as we sense, ass we evolve this energy might play tricks. No, the reason it plays tricks on you is to make you more aware of your existence. This energy is playing tricks with you, but it is there to test and expand your horizons. It's there to understand who you are, it's to understand the essence of your life, to explore the inner realms of yourself and the other realms of yourself. Understand the essences of your total being, understanding who you are, understanding your relationship to yourself. Now, let' assume that you say to yourself, I want to understand myself, Now, I say to myself, how do I understand myself? So, I analyze myself and I say this is what I am, these are my good points, and these are my bad points, and, in the middle, we have these points that we don't know whether they're good or bad. And with this jumble of energy that makes up all this mess, doesn't seem to be very much logic in it. So, what is it? Why did we create this mess? Why did why, why don't we understand ourself? So, what is it? Why can't we just be born and understand ourselves? That 's it because we would never evolve, to fall to a higher plan and become totally pure energy. Become totally immersed in the flow of energy. Through this material form in order to understand ourselves, we need to be totally immersed in our energy. We need to be totally involved knowing how we work. How do we work? How do we create our existence? Do we really know? Do we think we know, or do we just fulfill this existence? We just get married, have kids, and that's where that's all you hear. Are you? Are you some machine that goes through this cycle, constantly going through the same cycle time after again? Are you some machine that goes through this cycle, constantly going through the same cycle time after again? Are you some machine that goes through this cycle, constantly going through the same cycle time after again? Are you here to understand what makes the basic humanity work? Are you here to understand what makes you work? Are you here to understand? Why do you feel so frustrated with your life? Because you lack the true essence of spirituality, which is to understand yourself, to love yourself, All the religions that teach guilt don't make it because they lack the true essence that you are an expression of God. And as an expression of God, you need to love yourself. Selflove is the most important element of God. For without self-love, there is very little room to expand. You need to love yourself, then you can love other things, for without loving yourself, you cannot love anything else, without knowing your relationship with God, can't know anything else. You need to understand that there are too many elements inside of you, the need to cleanse is not enough, clean out harmful elements of food, drink, lifestyle etc. Those are basic issues that are necessary for you to get to yourself. So, that you can slowly cleanse your own being, for there are too many waves of energy that may not be benevolent, that are constantly projecting themselves towards you. And the more sensitive you get, the more barrage of energy you will see, You say to yourself why? What if I were a negative person, I can understand getting negative energy but as a positive person I try to evolve trying to become more spiritually, why am I getting this negative energy? You need it, You say, why do I need it? And I say to you need it to fall to a greater space. For without negative energy to test your patience, you may settle in your space. What is the sense of climbing a ladder and sitting on the middle rung? Why not go to the top and if you do not have these things to push you along, you may settle on the middle rung. Why not go to the top? And if you do not have these things to push you along, you may settle on the middle rung. So, that's why the difficulty, negative energy is there, is to push you on so that you can achieve those things that you are meant to achieve. You need to evolve into a different being, at some point where there is no necessity of having a physical form. There are some of us without a physical form. And there are some of us with many types of physical form. And there's some of us who have no knowledge of physical form. It's not necessary, but there are other forms you could be, and experience all these elements of these forms. But not sitting on the middle rung and waiting for something to happen, you need to push yourself along and negative energy does that. It pushes you along, it makes you test your patience, and you need to understand that as you go through this negative energy, you need not feel sorry for yourself. You have to take up every challenge and you have to convert this challenge into positive energy so that you can accomplish greater things. Noe difficulty is so important to understand the element of what you are. Difficulty makes you what you are for without difficulty, your motivation will be so low you would not accomplish anything. You need difficulty to accomplish things, you need challenges, have totally immersed understanding yourself, you need to be forceful to yourself. You need to keep climbing that mountain, you need that wind on your back, beating you on the back. You need the rugged rocks bleeding your feet, you need that as you climb that mountain because that makes you want to accomplish that task greater because you know you can't give up. The pain pushes you on, the bleeding feet pushes you on, the rugged hands pushing you on to accomplish yourself and then the idea of difficulty is to accomplish. We have come totally evolved to be a new persona Totally evolve in yourself, become totally with you, become totally immersed in your being, then you say to yourself. Why do I need to be totally immersed in myself? The reason you need to be totally immersed in yourself is to become a greater creature, a greater aspect of yourself. So, you need not deal with this difficulty, this attribute for there are many other attributes you could accomplish. It's just life. If I have this physical form, there's only certain things that I can do in this physical reality. But there are many realities that I can work with. There are realities that I don't need to use my feet to walk or my hands to manipulate. What if I were pure thought? I could complete things y thought and I can be totally immersed in myself by thought. That I would have no need of a physical body. For this body is utilizing itself only in this reality, it doesn't exist in another reality. But there are some realities that I need a body, but maybe not this body but some other body. So each reality has its sort of requirements of borders but energy that's you doesn't have borders. Because of existing different realities all a t the same time, so to speak so that you could be here in this physical form and in another realty in another form, flying the skies of some other planet, having fun skirting the mountains or you could be swimming in some ocean of yellow liquid, blue or green? Or you could be sitting on a mountain, thinking about the problems that you need to accomplish, Being pure thought, you spend your time understanding what pure thought is and how pure thought is created and how thoughts are created and how thoughts live, and you see the thoughts as they float about. You understand what each person's thoughts are, you understand that all these thoughts do exist for a reason and all difficulty exist for a reason of you were able to see thought. And you would know that this thought is as negative thought and this a positive thought, and you can select and choose how many positive thoughts you want and how many negative thoughts you need to accomplish what you want to accomplish. That you can transform yourself, there ae so many aspects that you can experience, so many means that you can do to understand who you are. And sometimes these borders that we have, all these realties that we have prevent us from doing certain things not because we don't have the desire and not completely ready to do these things because even in this reality there are many things to become a spiritual play in the next few years we shall see any the things that are being accomplished on a spiritual play for we are entering the era of accomplishing things without physical form. We are entering an era where our bodies are being changed, so that we are able to see things that your parents couldn't see or maybe your grandparents couldn't see. of the planet is changing the need of negative energy. This planet has encompassed itself with too much negative energy. The earth itself becomes weary of this negative energy in the Earth. We need to be part of this rebirth of the Earth's energy. The Earth is a gentle planet and has only so much patience and needs to renew herself. And the energy that is not part of the planet is changing the need for negative energy. This planet has encompassed itself with too much negative energy. The earth itself becomes weary of this negative energy in the Earth. We need to be part of this rebirth of the Earth's energy. The Earth is a gentle planet and has only so much patience and needs to renew herself, And the energy that is not part of the earth needs to leave because energy that becomes part of the Earth is associated with the Earth. It is going to the point that needs to cleanse itself. It is weary of all this negative energy that has been in it for centuries and centuries and centuries. IT needs to be true to its form, It needs to be a working body for which we can understand ourselves. Earth needs to accomplish many things. And there are entities upon this earth that are trying to prevent the progression of the Earth. But these entities need to go to another place in order to accomplish their own personal negativity so that they can evolve. For the older souls of the Earth are coming back because they have come back to help Mother Earth cleanse herself from this negativity, Oh! She calls her children back to her no matter where they are. Mother Earth is calling her children to help her undergo this process. And Mother Earth's process is to cleanse herself, which would tune her energy and she is reluctant to destroy but she may do so if it is necessary. Mother Earth knows her essences, she knows her power but if it is necessary for you to get rid of the vermin that has crouched upon her. So, she needs the help of her children and that is why she is sending out signals to the old far corners of the universe so that the souls of Mother Earth need true essences. Those people that have a direct relationship with the Earth and nature. Those people that have formed her in the beginning, those energies that were here, those people that have formed her in the beginning, those energies that were here. Those people that lived on this planet who have a true relationship with her, understanding her and understanding the true relationship with her and a relationship with all the elements of life upon the Earth. Only those who can help her that she is ending signals to enlist them back to her. So that she can cleanse herself of all this pollution that hasn't compassed her needs to go. She needs to have her creatures come back and those that have been hunted, killed, the souls of all those creatures that are calling out to her and come back and enjoy the peace. Otherwise, she needs to cleanse herself in a dramatic manner, but she will be patient only for so long, We need to find out what our role is on this planet and that's why we spiritualize ourselves so that we can figure out where we stand. What should we do to help this process. The Age of Aquarius is blossoming here. This is the age that she needs to cleanse herself because she is going to bring birth to many new generations of entities that you do not recognize. She is going to bring forth children with abilities that you have no knowledge of nut these are the future of Mother Earth. And the people that are here now will be divided upon her but those who support her, those that are against her. And those that are against her must be eliminated from her presence whether they have transformed into another reality or not. But Mother Earth needs to cleanse herself and to do so, she has done it before, sometimes in the most violent manner. And I say to you that you need to attach yourself to her and be accustomed to her flow. We seem to have lost our roots, pour flow with the Earth. Don't feel her soil like we used to and voice the soil as she reads upon us, We don't feel the oneness the flow of her window as it flushes our face we don't feel the essences of the sun as it shines upon us. Why is it that our relationship causes so much physical harm. Why is it that today? We have all these diseases from more exposure to natural elements, Why is that we do not feel benevolent to the Earth. Is it because we have lost our relationship with her? That she is not protecting us like she should. That she knows that we need her, and we need to understand we are attached to her for we ae her children. For she got us. She is the element that started us. For without her we are nothing because we are part of her. Now you say to yourself, what as an individual can I do to help Mother Earth. When I say Mother Earth I am not talking so much as the physical reality that is Mother Earth even though that is part of it. I am also talking about the spirit of the earth. For the earth is not a dead entity. The earth is very alive not only on the vegetation on its surfaces or the energy within it but if we look upon the earth as a being. For the earth is a being and we are part of this being. For the earth is a being and we are part of this being and the earth is in connection with us as we are in connection with God as it is in connection with God and the earth is a living entity and it is there to exist and to be part of us. That we are attached to her, and we are part of her, and it breathes as we breathe, and it gives life as we give life. It is immersed and evolving as we are immersed and evolving, and the earth is changing and she is going through various levels of change over the centuries, millennium upon millennium. And she keeps evolving as we keep evolving and understanding the elements of ourselves and understanding the pure energy of the earth. And how energy understands itself and how you understand yourself. AS the earth understands itself and try to get attached to the earth and attached to its energy and fell this energy upon your soul, feel this energy upon your being, and feel this energy in your body for your energy flow will be emotionalized to a state that is much more beneficent that you have ever experienced. When you attach yourself to the energy of the earth for the energy of the earth is very powerful, just feel the emotion of the earth. Feel the essences of its earth's being, feel that energy and feel how violent that energy can become. But if you know how to feel the energy it is a peaceful wonderous energy. It is a flowing understanding energy for you are attached to this emotion that encompasses the earth for she is the mother of life on this planet. For she is the essences of your total being and he flows, and she becomes one with you, And try to visualize her energy and try to see howe the Blue Planet exists, how it flows and become one with you knowing yourself. Because the earth is the prototype of yourself because she was there before you and she is made-up of you. And she materializes first to make way for your energy, to make way for your essences and she is totally immersed in herself as you are immersed in yourself. Now, let say this, understanding yourself and understanding the earth are very difficult things to accomplish. But there are steps that you can take to understand the earth and yourself because as we understand the earth, we first must understand the energy of the earth. And how do we understand the energy of the earth? We understand the energy of the earth by feeling the earth. What I need you to do is not only go to its vegetation, feel its vegetation which is an expression of the earth. But just try to understand the earth herself, try to understand her whole being. Next time you hug a tree, hug the earth. Next time you feel a rock, feel the earth, next time you feel a breeze upon your face, smell the earth. I know that it is difficult at this because of all the chemicals that are being immersed in this earth. Surface people of this earth, we need to try to understand that the earth will cleanse itself. We need to go to those places where we feel comfortable with the earth to feel its essences, to feel the ocean, feel the smell of the ocean, to feel how the ocean is powerful hence and cleansing for the ocean cleanses the earth and will keep cleansing the earth. You need to feel the ocean, you need to express yourself to the ocean. You need to express yourself to the mountains, you need top express yourself to the soil, you need to every so often go to those places where you feel close to the earth. That you can feel what she feels, you feel her pain and you smooth out her pain. For the earth is suffering from all these people upon her for they have destroyed her essences, for they have destroyed her controls and they have destroyed her balance and all the elements that make her up are not in harmony anymore. So, there needs to be a shift to harmony. So, you need to express yourself this way, try to get in touch with all these things that make the earth feel for you are one of those elements that make up the earth. Now the time is coming soon, and the skies may get red and the seas may flow in the opposite direction. When the time is there, she needs to be totally immersed in herself. For the time will be there where people will need to flee to the mountains tops so that she can cleanse the shorelines, so she can cleanse the shorelines, so she can cleanse herself because there are too many chemicals on the earth. It makes it hard to breathe for she needs to understand herself. As she immerses from this civilization to another which would have no need of those chemicals. She would be totally immersed in the energy flow that will open the energy lines of the earth. The energy that controls the earth, the energy makeup the flow and pattern of the earth. Once you get in sync with the energy lines there will be no modes of transportation because the energy lines will be there to provide the transportation. But what one needs to understand is that the elements of the earth are intense for us to learn more about ourselves on the earth and more about ourselves. We learn more about ourselves because we learn more about the earth. The earth is the concentration of our energy, the earth is the culmination of our being. That is how we express ourselves, that is how we punish ourselves. Remember when you have a disaster, those people who participate in the disaster have called upon the disaster on themselves with the help of the earth because she knows what needs to be done. Mankind needs to learn from its trouble, Sometimes a volcano erupts, or an earthquake happens, we call upon the earth to punish us because we are not absolutely in sync with her so that on a different level we cause our difficulty because we can by pooling our resources together so that we cause a more positive entry. Because sometimes it is necessary to have a negative flow in order to find a more positive flow. The thing about this whole story is who controls whom, who controls what? If you are part of the earth, which you are, who says the earth is punishing you or whether are you punishing yourselves. Who says whether you control the earth, or the earth controls you. Together you work with combined energies because you are part of the earth. She understands that she understands what you are, she understands how wondrous you are. But she understands you are involved, and she is involved. And you and her need to be in sync, and you need to be on the same wavelength so to speak. And those that do not, do not need to be on the earth, The earth needs to reach a appeasement moment in time, it needs to be another millennium probably. Another millennium where there is no turmoil and no violence, a millennium of wondrous times, a millennium when the earth is at peace. This will happen with the help of the souls that need to come back to her. So, that she can build her resources and be totally immune to this disease that has encompassed her. The disease that is upon her cannot last for if it does it will destroy the earth. The earth will not tolerate this and begin to erupt and cleanse herself again and again. So, I say to you learn from the earth, feel the earth and become totally immersed in her energy. Get totally involved in herself. ROBERT: When you talk about healing the earth and being more part of it especially on the physical level, do you suggest finding a place to live with... JONATHAN: Oh! Yes. The thing about this especially as you become more sensitive it is important to live in that is more beneficent than in an area if you live in a place that is not in sync with nature. For you to be in a place where your relationship with nature is at peace, where difficulty is where it is not at a minimum. But at a reasonable length, in other words even though you are close to nature there is always going to be difficulty but in a different way. You don't need the barrage of negative energy that most of the places around here are solely emersed in. So many people permeate the negative energy. What you need is to be closer to nature, feel the plants and animals and be totally in tune with them as you live, in tune with nature you can feel nature. It is more difficult to feel nature if you are not near wonderous parts of nature, It is easier to feel nature if you live in an environment where is a lot of greenery, the skies are not polluted, ROBERT: We are talking about leaving LA? JONATHAN: Well, it depends, there are places in LA where the basis is still o benevolent. By LA we are assuming that this conglomeration to you is the city. LA is this city conglomeration. But it's best that you do. No air here is not too bright. ROBERT: How long do we have? JONATHAN: It is hard because the disease is spread so deeply. The thing is you need to build up a base before you do this. You need to have somebody so that you can maintain yourself and being connected. ROBERT: I mean you can't move in the wilderness without any source of money. JONATHAN: That is why you need to get this book finished. ROBERT: I got to work on it today. JONATHAN: Push it, you need to push it along! The point here is that the closer you are to nature the easier it is. It is much more difficult to be in tune with her in this basin. Whatever, if you guys want to call it a basin or a cesspool or whatever. You know it is harder to dop things. It is harder to go to the ocean and smell the ocean air when you have a refinery right next to the ocean polluting up the earth. It doesn't make sense; we need to get rid of these contradictions because they pollute the earth, It doesn't make sense; we need to get rid of these contradictions because they pollute the earth. The earth doesn't need this stuff, there is so much natural energy that we3 have that we do not need it here. Instead of raping the earth, we need to work with her, we need to become beneficent. We need to do what the native Americans did. They worked with the earth; they knew you don't take all of something. You always leave something behind so that there is. But the situation here is that you have gotten too greedy. We take things until we do not have it anymore. And we build places where they shouldn't be built, We have the silliest motive of building things on cliffs and everything. They fall down because they are dangerous places. Then they burn them because things are not meant to be there. You have to respect nature and the biggest thing is we don't respect nature. She will take care of you if you are in touch with her, She will warn you against many elements so that you Surface People need to understand it more and you Surface People need to know that you need to learn to live in a relationship of harmony with the earth. ROBERT: I can't let that go about calling us Surface People? JONATHAN: Well, you people live on the surface. The Surface People are people that live there and are in harmony with the earth. On the surface of the earth, they exist with the earth. ROBERT: Is there anyone that we don't know about there? Is it possible to meet them and get an understanding. JONATHAN: They exist with the earth. They have been up here. If you are interested in the earth, you open many channels. The channels that you open up will attract different things. There have been visitations but there are not only those people, but there are also others. Deny what your government may deny but there are many entities. ROBERT: Personally, doing the root work that you suggested to any work that you might want to suggest. At this point I become green and become the leaves, When you talk about feeling the earth and being more part of it. JONATHAN: Oh yes! The thing about this that you live in areas where there is a lack of natural environment if you live in a place that is not in sync with nature, you need to be in a place where your relationship with nature is a place where difficulty is not at a minimum but at a reasonable length. In other words, even though as you approach nature there will be difficulty, you don't need the barrage of negative energy that most of the places around here are solely immersed ino That there are so many people that it permeates the negative energy that you need to be closer to nature and feel the plants and the animals and be totally in tone with it. So that as you live in harmony with nature you can feel nature. It's more difficult to feel nature if you are not near to the wonderous parts of nature. It is easier to feel nature if you live in an environment where there is a lot of greenery, and the skies are not polluted. ROBERT: So, are we talking about leaving LA. JONATHAN: Well, it depends. There are places in the LA Basin that are still wonderous, you need to look for them though. B y LA we're assuming this conglomeration that called citified here. It's best that you do. ROBERT: eavy reathing!)(((Heavy Breathing!) JONATHAN: No, the future here is not too bright! Let me say that ROBERT: How long do e have JONATHAN: Don't worry, you'll know. You will know in time. ROBERT: OK! JONATHAN: It is hard because this disease is spread so deeply. The thing is that you need to build up a base before you can do this. You need to have something so that you can maintain yourself. ROBERT: OK! JONATHAN: Do you understand where we are getting that? ROBERT: Yes, JONATHAN: You can't move into the wilderness without some sort of funds. ROBERT: OK! JONATHAN: That is why you need to get the book finished. ROBERT: I'm going to work on it. JONATHAN: You need to push it there; you need more difficulty. You need to push it along. The point here is that the closer you are to nature, physically closer it is to be in touch with here. It is too difficult to be in touch with her in this basin, well it is not an official basin or whatever. If you guts want to call it a basin, that is fine. Some people call it a cesspool but ROBERT: (Laughter) JONATHAN: It is harder to go to the ocean to smell the air when you have a refinery polluting the air. It doesn't make sense! We need to get rid of these contraptions here because they pollute the earth. The earth doesn't need that stuff. Because there is so much natural energy here that we need to harness, instead of raping the earth we need to work with her and if we work with her we can become beneficial. We need to do what the Native Americans used to do on this continent! You always leave something so that it can grow and prosper again. But the situation here is that we have gotten greedy, and we take things until we do not have anymore, and we build places where they shouldn't be built. We have the silliest thing about building things on cliffs and they fall down, or they are in dangerous places. The y burn down. It is kind of useless because things were not meant to be there, you have to respect nature. Because she will take care of you if you are in touch with her and she will warn you against many, many elements. So, you Surface People need to understand that more. You need to know that you need to live in a relationship with the earth. ROBERT: Oh, I can't let that go calling us Surface People! JONATHAN: Well, you live on the surface, right? ROBERT: Is there anything that we should know about those that live underneath? JONATHAN: Well, they're there! And they're in harmony with the earth. They exist with the earth. They were forced to exist within the earth, more in touch with the earth but they have been up here. ROBERT: Is it possible to meet them and gain some understanding? JONATHAN: When we evolve to a point when the time is right! And before you know and if you are immersed in the earth, you can open up many channels. ROBERT: OK! JONATHAN: The channels that you open up will attract many different things and you may attract a visitation. ROBERT: OK! JONATHAN: But it is not only these people, but there are others, lots of others. I mean deny what your government may deny but there are many, many entities that exist. ROBERT: Personally, doing the root work that you have given me, continuing to do that is there anything that you want to suggest deepen or suggest doing what I am doing. What am I doing? At this point I do the green become the leaves that blossom and become roots going down becoming the soil and become the root. That is my essence as well as having the nutrient running through me. And more and more energizing becoming more and more with the earth. Is there anything you want to suggest, the book needs some direction here? JONATHAN: It is real interesting, I guess. I should say something alright! I think that the grow that I see is like a mold._The mold attaches itself t o a living organism and feeds of the organism, So, I think what we need to do is to set your Tree. Do you follow me? ROBERT: Totally JONATHAN: What do you symbolize what you are meant to be. You symbolize you're the roots, right What is that? What are the roots? ROBERT: A tree! JONATHAN: Do you follow me now? ROBERT: A tree, so I left out the middle part, didn't do the tree trunk. JONATHAN: What are you symbolizing yourself to be? ROBERT: I did feel like there was something missing? JONATHAN: I want you to look upon the tree, I want you to do everything you have done. I want you to concentrate on the bark, you are cleansing the bark, okay! What I am sensing here is that when I look at you, your bark, I can see your bark. I can see this thing attaching to your bark, so I want you to look upon the tree, sense this mold or what is it? This fungus attaches itself to the bark and feeds off the bark and eventually it destroys the bark. So, just feel into that and energize it away. Just energize and think meditate and think on the bark. first picture it with this growth on the bark and then picture it without the growth and slowly eliminate the growth on it. ok. I want you to dop it in such detail and you can see the inner bark, you will know when you peel the bark of the tree and stimulate the damage and how you grow back and these damage parts. You stimulate yourself so you grow back and the process and think green as I have told you before green the healing energy, think of the green wood inside, it heals the tree, feel the energy, feel that emerald, green energy. Feel the healing part play with it more! Don't be so strict, you're too strict. You have got to have fun! You know the sparkle, the twinkle in your eye, the green emerald, Play with the bark and the green, greed wood, It's greenwood under there. It's a helpful sign to have green wood. It's healing energy, it heals you! Feel that! Play with that! Have fun with that! Become Irish for a day! ROBERT: I'll do this stuff, man! I want to ask you, well it is not official I was told that on a physical level, this psoriasis also is probably caused by low thyroid, I know you gave ty he orange ray to the little sun. Oh! I am sorry the Purple Rose opens up and energizes the pituitary gland. I thought you might have something for the thyroid gland. JONATHAN: I guess so! ROBERT: There are a couple of people that I can go to who are health practitioners, but I would love to do this at the energy level because it would be less expensive. JONATHAN: So, give me a moment, let me see. If we get anything up our sleeve here? Alright, this is what I see, I see a triangle, a green triangle. Inside the green triangle I see a combination and the best that I can describe it is a ball of energy changing light, but the ball is such, it is purple, and it has lines in it. The patterns keep shifting, and the lines are here, then they are not here, the pattern keeps changing and becomes a pastel color and all images are changing. It looks like wallpaper, it is always changing and as it revolves, it changes. This is inside the green triangle, and it shines and the light around it is always shinning. It gives off immense energy and immense light, ROBERT: The ball or the triangle? JONATHAN: The ball and green is lit like neon. Inside the green is this ball and this white light surrounding this ball of energy and it is shifting around and moving around and it recalculates, and it sits in this white energy and remember the images are going to start changing. So that you need to remember it is always changing because it is expressing itself in many ways. The ball is moving and has wondrous energy about itself, it is like a ball bearing, it moves in this fluid, in white unergative fluid, the ball always moves around, expresses itself and totally immersed in its energy and totally intuitive with itself. It's a wondrous energy and I feel the happiness about this ball, feel happy about, express yourself. It feels like it's inside of you. You know how something nice and warm feels inside of you. It fills you, encloses your lungs and it feels the expression of being comfortable and warm and sincere. ITY is wondrous this ball has these moving colors. It is like moving wallpaper and it's very and feels so It is Iowarm and energetic. Now feel the energy. Now, I see the unraveling is taking place and I see the triangle and the triangle opens up and sort of spread out sideways and there is a glittering of stars that come over there. And the stars blinking and the stars sprinkling all over and I see a gland and the gland is pulsating. OH! There is a mark on the gland. I ty seems to be like a scar. It has been pieced at one time. But the Gland is still alive and functioning, but one lobe seems to be damaged so let send some green energy to this lobe. Now it's starting to pulsate, see the flow and I am seeing the branches from the gland, these little tubes come out of the gland and the blackened part of it seems to be getting red and it seems to flow more. Follow the pattern and see how the green stimulates it and now it sees the pastel ball. T is inside the gland and flows over the gland and it is energizing it and becomes more and more in tune with itself, I feel it now the gland is rubbery and liquidly and shining and I sense blue energy come over the glad. The Blue energy is encompassing the gland. It is a light blue light that encompasses the total gland. Feel the light blue light Feel how it energizes you. Do you feel it? Now do this and now will expand it. Now, I think there was an arrow that pierced the gland. You don't believe in this stuff. ROBERT: I do believe this but! JONATHAN: Let me say this, you need layers, suppose for instance you have a nut, we crack the nut. Sometimes you need to take out the corn silk that sometimes is inside the nut, there are layers of skin inside the nut before you can see the meat and there is a lot of work that needs to be done. You have certain problems that you yourself gave yourself before you were born. So, you really solve them with a whim because they have a purpose, and you have to reach the point where you are able to reach your purpose. Do you understand where I am going at. So, it takes a lot of battering and removing these layers, Think that eventually you can do this, but it takes patience and motivation and understanding. So there are things you can do without so-called treatment. But you need to be very cautious. I really do not recommend not doing anything. ROBERT: OK! JONATHAN: You should always treat it on all fronts because the energy partn is only part of it. You have to remember the body gets addicted to circumstances. Sometimes when you remove the energy part of it, the physical part still craves that addiction and eventually the energy part will change the physical part. And you will have interim periods of time in which you will still feel addicted to it. So, you need to understand that. ROBERT: OK! Thank you JONA THAN: you should be getting going on that just see the bark that really needs to be w or ked upon because it is crying out to me. It's asking for some solution here. So, you need to do that. ROBERT: And one final quickie! We're starting to take percussion sessions from this guy named Skip who is quite into the Santania, which is religious stuff, which comes from an African tradition and though I am not enamored by the way it is presented and all the energy forces and he different gods that they idolize or are mostly afraid of. I would love to know more about it especially the higher about to attune to that and just it feels like a wonderful way to a different way to attune to nature. The rhythm ae the rhythms of the earth in its various aspects and I think that realm is just beautifully, beautiful energy because it brings energy down and when they do it a lot of t is to open people up basically for people that are and wonder if you could talk a little about that, a lot about t hat if anything needs to be done. But mainly to understand it from a higher point of view the alignment is more easy. JONATHAN: Just give me a moment, First what I am getting is this, that you need to be careful, very careful. I sense I see a jungle; I see these branches; they are wonderful nature branches, and they are vivid and lush. But behind the branches I see these sets of eyes hiding. Be careful of the dark eyeso I feel that this type of extension one needs to be very careful feel that you need to be cautious because the drawing of energy needs to be real selective, for you can draw non-positive energy so you need to be careful on what energies you draw upon and you need to be always protecting yourself from the elements and with the people that do work with this energy sop that it does not harm you. Sense here that the wonder of the music produces vibrations akin to your soul. I sense here that the wonder of the music produces vibrations akin to your soul. I sense that the drums that I see are in tune with the energy but also there is same dark creatures surrounding this, You need to be bravery careful, and you need to be very careful how you open up to these creatures and you need to be careful what you say to those people that are engaged in these types of practices, Remember that you are in control; remember the elements that are negative, that hide behind the bushes waiting for your weaknesses to appear. The stronger you are, the less the opportunity to pounce upon you are, so you need to remain strong but even as I sense this negative energy, it is negative not negative. It is not positive, but it is not really benevolent There is some negative energy that I sense there. But mainly you need to protect yourselffrom this, the stronger you get, the more positive the flow can be. It is sort of a nil energy. I don't see it as a colored energy. I use the word-colored meaning more spiritual expressing itself on a more spiritual level. I don't see it in a colorful way. It seems more dark, grayish, where it doesn't know what it is, a more neutral type of energy. It depends on the person attaching itself to its energy. In other words, the person using and drawing the energy down as mora effect on the type of energy that it is going to be and those that use it in a negative way, Now, I am seeing red, is there what is the word that I want, those that see in a negative way. It is a neutral energy, that they make it negative, the circumstances will backfire on then individually, this might not happen right away, but will happen. So, you need to be careful to use that energy in a positive light and be very careful what you draw upon. You can draw upon something that you thought you were drawing upon something else. Images themselves can be false fronts so you have to go beyond the image and feel the energy. Make sure you draw upon the energy that you need to draw upon. Really do not trust the people, the material beings that are utilizing it. I don't sense a good positive energy; I don't see my colors in these people. Al right I want you to be careful on the material beings, I am more frightened of the material beings than the energy that is drawn upon them. Everything is so gray it's not really. It is really neutral. You understand what I am talking about here? And it is not taking one form or the other that it is not negative or positive. Nothing I detect the person that attaches itself to it, I know that this energy has been used in detrimental ways before, I know that person the energy that this person is, is manifesting itself, the discovering the energy, and the more red the energy is the detrimental it iso And I do see flashes of red, but this is in connection with the dangers of the energy, but I don't see a real danger upon yourself. I feel it is neutral. ROBERT: If I bring it down, energize it with my little sun to make it more benevolent than that will protect me? JONATHAN: It would protect you, try it and see what colors that you get, OK. ROBERT: Try what? JONATHAN: You energize it with your sun. And don't you remember that! ROBERT: I can let myself go as I have my little sun protecting me at it. JONATHAN: This is what I would like you to do- As the energy comes in, right! Don't separate them, let them be one. The energy comes in, your sun is here, have the energy filtering through your sun. I want you to feel the energy coming into your sun. One it enters the sun I want you to feel the colors that it produces. It is important that you pay attention to the colors that it produces because if your sun is weak, it may not filter out the harmful elements. So, as this energy comes in, you use your sun as a filter, I want you to feel the energy coming into your sun. It would be nice to booster up your sun. Once it enters the sun, I want you to keep feeling the colors that it produces. It is important that you pay attention to the colors that it produces. because if your sun is weak, it may not filter out the harmful elements, so as this energy comes in use your sun as a filter, it would be nice if you would booster up your sun beforehand. As you play the energy is flowing through you and your sun is becoming monstrously large. It is filtering this energy so it will filter it down. So that it slips this energy into different colors that you want to come out and see if you can match up the music the colors that you want to come out. So, there is a correlation between color and benevolence. Okay, if you are getting black there you have a problem. So that we need to see more greens and blues, pink and soothing colors and you can get away from the standard rainbow colors and get mixtures of colors, pastels and other things so that as you energize that you get colors, but you need to filter it. Gray energy, I am really concerned about gray energy. I want you to be concerned not only with the energy but the people around you. Remember the people that you associate with, you need to protect yourself from, because people give off negative energy. There is no question about that, remember that. People give off negative energy, so you need to protect yourself from people. You need to make sure that you are not putting their energy upon yourself. You need to make sure that you have walls around you to protect you from other people's energy, especially with the gravity of the situation. If you have negative people drawing on this energy through their music and drawing this energy down, it can be quite powerful. So that you need to make sure that you have sufficient energy to protect yourself. By filtering your music down and producing colors, you produce a rainbow.

JONATHAN: Hello Robert! ROBERT: Good evening, Jonathan! JONATHAN: I see we are back in the city again! ROBERT: Oh! Yeah! Due to the wonderful air and adaptable concrete! JONATHAN: I am glad that you have to breathe it and not me! ROBERT: Yeah! That is the way it is! TELEPHONE: RINGING! RINGING! ROBERT: We will just let it ring, wild man! JONATHAN: It must be one of your romantic flings! ROBERT: Maybe it was! Who was fling? ROBERT: John would like to know, in meditation he saw three cameos, one of a little girl, one of a woman about twenty, and one of an older woman. And he would like to know what this means. JONATHAN: Give me moment! These women are elements of yourself, they are, they represent past lives of yourself. Let us take them one at a time. The little girl represents a past life in which you have lived that life as a child in a town in and she is representing the part of your life that is to ascertain whether you should develop along the line of being a child. Bring, shall we say, lightened up a little bit more, try to enjoy yourself a little bit more, let it go, trying to be one with oneself, trying to be close to nature, trying to let us say, expound on that, shall we say, the feminine side or the feminine energy of oneself! The woman, the young woman represents another past life of oneself. This has to do with the Dutch connection. In which you were involved in an educational pursuit of expanding one’s intellect and expanding one’s essences and trying to seek the truth. What this represents what you have to seek out yourself. Go into yourself more or try to follow the paths to oneself. Try to examine oneself, try to deal with oneself, try to be with oneself, try to examine and reexamine oneself, find the proper pathways to be in touch with oneself. Now, the third woman represents another past life, an elderly woman who did save you in Spain or were a service to you in Spain or part of the service to you in Spain. In other words what this woman represents is the lifetime of an individual who knew you well and served you well and was ike a mother, more than a mother but more like a grandmother, who help[ed you survive during a period of time where there was turmoil and war. And this woman hid you among the bushes and tried to protect you from the elements were developing because of war and injury. So, what does this woman represent? This woman represents the healing part of you! And this is an area that you have to develop more. Go to yourself and develop those parts of you that need healing and you have several right now that need healing. So, you must try to, let us say generate all the dream energy within thy system, so thy can heal the body as well as heal the soul. You must generate this energy throughout the system that heals this process. And all these three women are with you and as you try to put yourself together, all your elements, all your past lives will be coming together, will be coming one, one with oneself and this is a sign that this process is started. This is a good sign, this is a sign that you are developing in the right direction. So, you must put yourself together and slowly assimilate all these lives into one. Because you are one, you are not disjointed as you have been in the past, and you must show the signs of progress in this area. ROBERT: John says that he is getting more and more dissatisfied and felt quite bored with the meeting with the Executive Director for the AIDS Program and he wants to know what this means. JONATHAN: What is happening here as you try to spiritualize assets or spiritual access of your life, other aspects are going to cause the diminishment of the former areas of, let us say potentially unsuitable to you. What is happening is that you are seeing a diminishment more than developing the spiritual assets or spiritual access. Your intellect is getting less involved in those areas of holding back. You say to yourself the intellect does not mean to be in charge anymore. What is happening your body is changing and your soul is changing, and things are getting more and more. And you are going to see that you are going to be disjointed with your former occupation, and this is a sign that this is happening and what we are saying here is your whole essences are changing, your whole vibration is changing as you get more and more together, you will see your work is going to change. And this is a sign that we are making progress in this area. I don’t want to you to be frightened by the lack of work but that will not happen. You will still have your work. Let us say to sustain and though the score of this work may change, the talents that you have accumulated over the years may be quite helpful. And let us say, let’s say, the word that I am trying to think of far od ascertaining that I am not the one that has the potential income or not. But what we are saying really is that here is your work is going to be more spiritual and more valuable that you will be able to have and the spiritual work is going to grow more and more important and the other work will diminish as time goes on. ROBERT: John sent his resume to a potential employer and John wants to know if this was a wise choice. JONATHAN: Give me a moment! The potential employer will not hire you! But I think that you were a little worried about your financial situation and you thought that this was an outlet! You’re losing a little faith in us. And I realize that this is a difficult situation and things have not messed the way that they should have and you are getting worried and I just want you to be able to tell yourself not to worry and not to generate negative energy, and I realize that you have bills to pay and are not going to pay your bills and let me say this, that we are aware of the situation and are trying to remedy the situation as well as we can and we have to end the situation very shortly. Just be a little bit more patient with us. And I realize that this s difficult and I wish that I could expedite this in any manner, but I could but I think right now, we ae involved more in the process and the process is developing and you should see some resolution to the situation very shortly. But in the meantime, try not to worry, try not to generate negative energy, leave this and you shouldn’t generate negative energy especially in this area and what we are saying here is just be a little more patient and things will work out! ROBERT: There is a test? JONATHAN: There is always a test! That is how you achieve tribulation. ROBERT: John wants to know in the same vein if he should call Joe Lopez and to do his books and taxes? JONATHAN: Give me a moment! That may not be necessary but as I have said before if you feel more comfortable in doing so, you can do so. And I realize this thing was given to you by a friend of yours and it may be let us say, a part time situation away, so, if you need to keep busy and this might generate some income for you. Fine! You can go ahead and do it! But as I have told you before in the last area that we ae, let us say, we are taking care of the situation and you will be quite surprised at the resolution because it will be quite beneficial for you and you may not really have the inclination to be occupied in this manner but let just say, if you need that security, you might want to do it for a while and I am not one to discourage one’s achievements and efforts in this area. But I think that it is sort of a waste of time but if you feel more comfortable, I would say go ahead and do it! And try to keep yourself busy and get your mind occupied and then when the time is right and when things start to happen, everything will be settled. And it would be quite good for you! ROBERT: Do you want more to drink! JONATHAN: Yes, please! ROBERT: Would water be ok! Water from the springs where we are at! JONATHAN: John drank all my tea! ROBERT: HA! That was great! I will make you a separate cup! ROBERT: Well, when we were leaving the creek area and on the way back to the car, we met a bull and calf and cow! I was wondering if there was something symbolic meaning to that! JONATHAN: OK! Is that the question? ROBERT: Yah! JONATHAN: Give me a moment! The symbolism, I mean the situation is involving but the symbolism represents several factors, let us say, the cow represents your urges, your frustrations, let us say, your battle between your boyish image and your manly image! Let us say, with your confrontation with your career. The cow represents, let’s go back to the bull, we don’t want the cow yet! The bull represents the situation that you are in. How you are going to have to let us say, being more bullish to overcome the obstacles that you are about encompassing at this time and the protection. Also, the bull represents your desires, the desires of being, having your own cow and calf. The bull represents the symbol of your family! The bull represents the head of the family! The bull represents the desire to get your life together! The desire to meet someone and settling down! The cow represents the need for a relationship! The cow represents the essences of your development! The cow represents the feminine side! The cow represents the need to be on your feminine side! You have to remember that you have your masculine side, and you have your feminine side! The symbol of having both of them together is the symbol of uniting yourself! The calf, the calf represents child energy! The part of you that needs, shall we say, the fun part of you! The lively part of you, the psychic part of you, it is the part that you try to express now! We put them all together and we represent wholeness of oneself! The interconnection of oneself! The being with oneself! Now if we put, my words I am getting tongue tied! My words whatever, you want to call it! Let us say, putting the uhm mm----the whole triangle together which contemplates the wholeness of God. Contemplates the seeing eye of God! Contemplates the Third Eye of God! What we are seeing is a development process, the oneness is there, the oneness is, let us say, becomes connected is the whole. Where the symbolism is showing us the way! Showing us the desire of where to go! And what we are saying here is that this symbolism is telling you that you are perceiving in the right direction. It is giving you a goal to accomplish also the cuffs of the bull. As you know the bull is very protective. The bull is protecting the oneness of the family! The oneness of God! He bull turned and wanted a confrontation which I would not have advised you of not to have done as you would not have survived very well! Maybe you would have survived but in a little battered condition! What I am saying here, the bull represents the strength, fortitude, shall we say the protection, the courage, the ruddiness, the essence of your soul trying to achieve stuff! It has all the qualities, if you notice the bull by its physical tradition represents a true masculine image, the muscles, the strength, all this is encompassing, all this tells you your direction. What we are saying here, first of all we have the completeness or the oneness, then we have the masculine to protect this oneness and by doing this we are attempting to show you your direction, the power that you will need to go into this direction. We are not saying that you have to do this on your own. We are showing you the way and we ae expecting you to follow that way. But we are providing the help to achieve that way. So, even though we take your ego to push it, you may not realize that we are helping you and you may credit everything to your own self, but we are in turn are helping you. So, what we are saying here is the ego is pushing, the ego has the strength, the ego has the fortitude not only because of oneself, but with the help of those entities within you that are helping. OK! Essentially, this was a sign, this was an omen. This was a goal given to you on such a blessed day. For it has shown you have opened yourself into the energy. And the energy is telling you that this is a sign, this is the place to go. And later on, you will see more about this symbol. This symbol will come into your dreams, and you will evaluate what it says to you in your dreams, or you can get it interpreted here. We don’t charge here, you know! But anyway, the symbol is a very important symbol for you! OK! ROBERT: It was quite interesting and with the bull first started the protection stuff and I was given good energy, and I said hello and John was surprised that I would be that friendly. JONATHAN: He was waiting for a confrontation that the whole idea behind it, he needs and expects a confrontation. I think that you need to remember that within your energy, there is a tendency that animals are picking up this energy and are receptive to the energy, they are aware of it. Animals have very keen senses, and they are very psychic in many, many ways. So, he was aware of who you were so being careful otherwise he may have been more aggressive, that is one of the reasons that he backed off. ROBERT: Well, I noticed that he was a little fem.! I have three questions! In the previous session, you were talking about opening up emotionally, first I have to give to myself, and you said, I give when Cynthia was here that while I am socially charming I am not emotional or something. I wonder if you can explain that about the opening up part. JONATHAN: Ok! Give me a moment! All right, I would say, let us define a few items here. As a man sometimes you get emotional. Your situation is not what a woman expects. You have to remember the differences. Number one, that’s what we are talking about, a woman has an emotional side which is very strong side, and a man sort of suppresses his emotions. Ok! But deep down inside of you that is a lot of crap because essentially you have similar emotions. It is just a matter of conditioning. And sometimes when you suppress your emotions, you cause to suppress other things besides, you put up all these walls and barriers, and it is hard for you to get in touch with yourself. You may think that you are in touch with your emotions, but you are really not! You don’t understand how you really feel and sometimes the reasons are that you have all these walls inside of you. And the thing that we are talking about is the removal of these walls. Cynthia was really aware of the situation. She picked up on the statement very well because she was very agreeable because of her perception. And that is one of the areas in which she felt that you weren’t enough of you weren’t sharing with her enough emotionally, not socially acceptable of being outwardly. But we are talking how you really feel inside of yourself and she felt that you weren’t feeling enough according to her standards. I am not going to decide that whether it was enough or not, that is something that you have to work out yourself. That is something that you have to do yourself. But what I am saying here is that you need this, this is not only you. She has the same problem, even though she is a woman that is easier to do but really you have to get in touch with your emotions. We are not talking about, shall we say, the readily available emotions. I mean like feeing sad about something and you are going to cry, that is not wat we are talking about, we are talking about feelings, exactly how do you feel OH! Breaking down the barriers, saying this really hurts me! How do I feel about it! I don’t know if I feel that way! It hurts but does it really hurt? So, my pride is a little tarnished a bit, big deal! Or you may say this really gets to me, this really pisses me off! I am really hurt; I feel like that I am five years old and I hurt! Or you might want to say that I would like to have a good cry! I want to get it out of the way, or I want to yell and get it out of my system! There is a punching bag over there, I want to get this aggression out of me! And you may want to do that! The whole point here is not what you do. It is dealing with yourself. Trying to get deep inside of yourself and finding what your situation is and a lot of times you have to let us say eliminate some of the barriers, some of the cobwebs, some of the elements that sort of block your way, some of the debris and here, there is all this, shall we say obstacles that needs to be removed. Now, we are saying to you, there are things. Let me go back a bit, there are things that we know, we need to talk about, and we are saying how we going to eliminate these obstacles and what we are saying to you is go back to the same stuff. Remember we go back to self-knowledge. First of all, you have to find out what your problems are. If you think that you are a very adverse person, or shall we say that you are an adverse person and don’t know that you are an adverse person. The only way that you are going to find out that you are an adverse person is the input that you receive to make this determination and how do you receive this from an external source, and from internal sources. Now we’ll not going to worry about the external stuff, we are just going to worry about the internal stuff. Because if somebody told you that you were adverse you would say you are crazy. But, than after in a few minutes you would say that I wonder if they were right, you would start looking at yourself and start examining yourself and trying to go through your processes of yourself and examining of what you are, but you have a little bit lf adverse but not much. A little bit and you go in and say Yeah! I see that I am that way! Or we could go through the process of causing a problem and that you have and say this is an obstacle for my life! I have to break down these barriers, and I have to break down, shall we say all the debris that has accumulated and sometimes you may pick stuff up and it doesn’t look substantial. But when you remove it, it may be substantial. What we are saying here, evaluate it, as evaluate everything, don’t not evaluate! In other words, examine and don’t submiss stuff! What we saying here is that we have to first of all, we have self-knowledge of ourselves. The problem is where you say that we have this problem. The position is what are we going to do with the problem. We examine the problem and evaluate that program and ok! we say this is my problem, this is my blockage, and you say how do I correct that blockage and these are the steps that I choose to correct this problem! Now, you have to remember that sometimes you have obstacles within youyou, and they prevent the knowledge from coming about and these obstacles are fabricated by the ego or by socialization or any other process that may be involved there and what we are saying to you here is that processes can be eliminated through meditation, putting white light within your system. Find to reveal the barriers that are there and how do these barriers, how do we reveal then, very easily by doing the meditation and sending white light through the system, trying to reveal all these dark passages, they in turn will be responding to all the parts of yourself, whether it be an impression or a dream or whatever because it is a circle, the more work down there, the more work will be up to the top. So, what happens is we are shedding more and more light on your problem as you get more enlightened. So, we just go back to the same stuff as we are saying all along because it does work and you experience some areas in this aspect and has worked better and why do you think that you are having all these dreams. This is work, right! ROBERT: Because I don’t have cable TV! JONATHAN: I’ll hook you up there! Then, why do you experience these things and sometimes when you are supposed to be dealing with something and you don’t deal with it and it will come to you, it will force you to deal with it. The situation is that it can be through external sources or internal sources. There is a lot of work that goes on in the dreams and a lot of stuff that you don’t remember but it is a place where a lot of your potential problems get worked out. And sometimes you feel that you don’t have any control of these situations, but you really do and it is that you are not aware of it on a conscious level, so how much control that you do have. So, what we are saying to you here is that there are ways to deal with your emotions. Now, I think it is more practical especially if you are in a relationship that these things, shall we say are exposed a little more when one is not in a relationship. Maybe it would be a good idea to evaluate your past relationships and not look at those past relationships to see if it can tell you about yourself. I don’t want you to dwell on it and be saturated with the past. I think that you should utilize some of the lessons of the past. This is what I think, this is what belongs to me or that belongs to me or if you feel that is too detrimental to you, you can actually have many relationships which I am sure that you would enjoy. ROBERT: To experience the things of the present. JONATHAN: It may be at this time to be more practical for you to look at the past. But I don’t want you to get involved with shall we say, non-enlightened beings. It sort of deter you from your experiences by which it is the process in which we are trying to accomplish. ROBERT: I don’t think that it is possible anymore to do that! Or not for long! Well! There is one theme that emotionally came up again, came up with Cynthia again. It is related to the little child. I looked at the child today in the meditation, he got a little older and bigger. But it seems in the past, I let people, not physically but do what they wanted like I didn’t have the right to be angry, or I didn’t know or how to fight back or something. It is just that I am feeling empty, sad and vulnerable. I have been waiting for someone else to help me or protect me. I now I have to do it! The whole area has been missing because it is like that the whole area of expressing anger or something of being weird when I did the meditation today. I was thinking of a situation that I told John about the dance teacher and it is clear that he was attracted to Cynthia and wanted to get together with her. And he and I are supposed to be friends and so the more I think about , the more angry that I got but impression wise was that pictured like a little kid and I surrounded the little kid with protection. I got the physical sensation when the kid grew a book one and I felt good. JONATHAN: What is the whole thing? ROBERT: It is abut the emotion of anger and protecting myself and knowing when to be angry, instead of letting people walk. JONATHAN: What’s made? Let’s talk about this! What really makes you angry is your inability to ascertain the situation at this time. So, what are we talking about here as you grow up. What we are talking about is the retardation of energy which can happen because of pressures or because of influences during childhood. And you have to get over this; some people take longer than others because they are afraid of the unknown. What we ae saying here to you as you see this child rowing up within yourself and this is within yourself, now this is within yourself, the emotional aspects of yourself have been maturated as they should have. And you are not alone in this area, there are many in this, but we will not get into that. But what we are saying here that the more you evaluate yourself and deal with yourself the more you see yourself, the more you shed light on yourself, you are going to be exposing many, many elements within yourself. As you do this, you have been to unaware of the many parts of yourself that need attention and in your case this is one of the primary ones, the emotional parts of yourself and what we are saying here is you have to deal with the situation. What you have done in the past is that you have not dealt with the situation. You have ignored it or you have let things go and let things ride and what you have to do is ride. By getting in touch with yourself in the moment, the situation rises and deal with the ramification of the situation and put the energy there and the situation wouldn’t occur! The situation occurred because you wanted it to occur! Let us go back gto the ramification of this person that was doing it and Cynthia! It occurred because you wanted it to occur, not because you wanted it to occur but deep down you wanted it to occur, you wanted to slap yourself. Let’s talk about this! You see you’re attracting that energy. You are caught by your own insecurity! We are not saying that the person didn’t cooperate with you, but the person did cooperate with you, giving the material for the situation to occur. But deep down if this person wasn’t available and cooperate, some other person would cooperate. So, what we are saying here is that you needed the confrontation, you were unwilling to have the confrontation. What we are saying to you is that you are attracted by your own energy. You attract this stuff! You create this stuff! You create the situation! So, let us go back to this whole point here! Before one gets angry dealing with other people, one has to get angry with oneself! One has to see if you are creating the situation, you can! What you should save done with the Cynthia confrontation is drew the love which you didn’t do! First of all, let us describe two elements here! The first element is on the material level; you didn’t deal with the situation! You should have called this person aside; I think it is very inappropriate to do this. That is dealing with it. But that isn’t the solution, that isn’t going to cure your problem! Because if you were more secure inside you would not generate that energy for that to happen! So, the problem is within you! So, even though you don’t desal with the energy, but deal with the internal, what is more important? So, what we are saying here is what you have to do is go down inside yourself and prevent the insecurity from surfacing. Dealing with it and becoming more secure, developing that little child and bring him up a few years. So, you have that security within you. So, that you don’t have that feeling that you need protection. A child that doesn’t need the protection should be able to protect itself and does this by growing up! As you grow up within yourself and you will not attract the insecurity! You will not attract the situation when you have to deal with it because you are creating it! And the more positive energy that you put inside yourself, the less negativity that you are going to have. And so, I think it will be useless to vet one’s frustration on while you maintain this child kingdom within you. You have to remove that; you have to deal with the stuff inside of yourself. You need to bring light and bring that security that you need inside of yourself. You have to be more open to oneself, you have to love oneself more than you have to get rid of this childhood paraphernalia. This is what we are talking about! ROBERT: I can really feel it in there! I can feel it al the time. It is a real powerful ding-a-ling going on! JONATHAN: It hurts us all the time! We all have that! It is something that we really have to deal with it! ROBERT: I was even facilitating even with the situation even acknowledging that it wasn’t appropriate! He was a jerk to have done that! And I have to confess to myself that he really did that and that was wrong! JONATHAN: You created it and he is cooperating with your creation. It was beneficial to both of you. And he got his problems worked out too! And whether he knew or not he was manifesting your desires. You desired to have the confrontation. The situation that developed you got yourself to engage in an emotional area and gave him on! ROBERT: What is it that he was working on! JONATHAN: I don’t think that is appropriate! ROBERT: I kind of know anyway! And I am going to straighten it out externally, anyway! JONATHAN: I think that the idea that you should voice your concern about the situation. Now he has his problems too! And he has to deal with them himself on his own insecurities because on his end he has to deal with his own insecurities as well. And what we are saying here, since he is not here. I don’t think it is appropriate to address his personal stuff! And anybody else and what I am saying is that you have two individuals that have a situation in which they are dealing with their own emotional problems, and these are servicing so that they are both cooperating with you, and he is cooperating with you. And you both are feeding into the energy creating the situation. I think that you are right on an external level that you have to address it and don’t leave it there and in other words say that I have an experience on an external level and you have to go internally because that is the cause of it. If you have a fever that is causing the disease, you don’t just treat the temperature, you find out what the disease is! It is the same as here! ROBERT: That one is so deep with me! JONATHAN: And from the situation emotionally you were so concerned about that you invented it several times. You were concerned about the situation, and it is sort of hard in your inners, but the main thing is your anger at that which you haven’t recognized. You are angry with yourself! You are angry with yourself more than you are at him! You are really pissed off at yourself! ROBERT: I never thought of it that way! Which is pissing me off! JONATHAN: Don’t try

JONATHAN: Hello Robert! ROBERT: Good evening, Jonathan! JONATHAN: I see we are back in the city again! ROBERT: Oh! Yeah! Due to the wonderful air and adaptable concrete! JONATHAN: I am glad that you have to breathe it and not me! ROBERT: Yeah! That is the way it is! TELEPHONE: RINGING! RINGING! ROBERT: We will just let it ring, wild man! JONATHAN: It must be one of your romantic flings! ROBERT: Maybe it was! Who was fling? ROBERT: John would like to know, in meditation he saw three cameos, one of a little girl, one of a woman about twenty, and one of an older woman. And he would like to know what this means. JONATHAN: Give me moment! These women are elements of yourself, they are, they represent past lives of yourself. Let us take them one at a time. The little girl represents a past life in which you have lived that life as a child in a town in and she is representing the part of your life that is to ascertain whether you should develop along the line of being a child. Bring, shall we say, lightened up a little bit more, try to enjoy yourself a little bit more, let it go, trying to be one with oneself, trying to be close to nature, trying to let us say, expound on that, shall we say, the feminine side or the feminine energy of oneself! The woman, the young woman represents another past life of oneself. This has to do with the Dutch connection. In which you were involved in an educational pursuit of expanding one’s intellect and expanding one’s essences and trying to seek the truth. What this represents what you have to seek out yourself. Go into yourself more or try to follow the paths to oneself. Try to examine oneself, try to deal with oneself, try to be with oneself, try to examine and reexamine oneself, find the proper pathways to be in touch with oneself. Now, the third woman represents another past life, an elderly woman who did save you in Spain or were a service to you in Spain or part of the service to you in Spain. In other words what this woman represents is the lifetime of an individual who knew you well and served you well and was ike a mother, more than a mother but more like a grandmother, who help[ed you survive during a period of time where there was turmoil and war. And this woman hid you among the bushes and tried to protect you from the elements were developing because of war and injury. So, what does this woman represent? This woman represents the healing part of you! And this is an area that you have to develop more. Go to yourself and develop those parts of you that need healing and you have several right now that need healing. So, you must try to, let us say generate all the dream energy within thy system, so thy can heal the body as well as heal the soul. You must generate this energy throughout the system that heals this process. And all these three women are with you and as you try to put yourself together, all your elements, all your past lives will be coming together, will be coming one, one with oneself and this is a sign that this process is started. This is a good sign, this is a sign that you are developing in the right direction. So, you must put yourself together and slowly assimilate all these lives into one. Because you are one, you are not disjointed as you have been in the past, and you must show the signs of progress in this area. ROBERT: John says that he is getting more and more dissatisfied and felt quite bored with the meeting with the Executive Director for the AIDS Program and he wants to know what this means. JONATHAN: What is happening here as you try to spiritualize assets or spiritual access of your life, other aspects are going to cause the diminishment of the former areas of, let us say potentially unsuitable to you. What is happening is that you are seeing a diminishment more than developing the spiritual assets or spiritual access. Your intellect is getting less involved in those areas of holding back. You say to yourself the intellect does not mean to be in charge anymore. What is happening your body is changing and your soul is changing, and things are getting more and more. And you are going to see that you are going to be disjointed with your former occupation, and this is a sign that this is happening and what we are saying here is your whole essences are changing, your whole vibration is changing as you get more and more together, you will see your work is going to change. And this is a sign that we are making progress in this area. I don’t want to you to be frightened by the lack of work but that will not happen. You will still have your work. Let us say to sustain and though the score of this work may change, the talents that you have accumulated over the years may be quite helpful. And let us say, let’s say, the word that I am trying to think of far od ascertaining that I am not the one that has the potential income or not. But what we are saying really is that here is your work is going to be more spiritual and more valuable that you will be able to have and the spiritual work is going to grow more and more important and the other work will diminish as time goes on. ROBERT: John sent his resume to a potential employer and John wants to know if this was a wise choice. JONATHAN: Give me a moment! The potential employer will not hire you! But I think that you were a little worried about your financial situation and you thought that this was an outlet! You’re losing a little faith in us. And I realize that this is a difficult situation and things have not messed the way that they should have and you are getting worried and I just want you to be able to tell yourself not to worry and not to generate negative energy, and I realize that you have bills to pay and are not going to pay your bills and let me say this, that we are aware of the situation and are trying to remedy the situation as well as we can and we have to end the situation very shortly. Just be a little bit more patient with us. And I realize that this s difficult and I wish that I could expedite this in any manner, but I could but I think right now, we ae involved more in the process and the process is developing and you should see some resolution to the situation very shortly. But in the meantime, try not to worry, try not to generate negative energy, leave this and you shouldn’t generate negative energy especially in this area and what we are saying here is just be a little more patient and things will work out! ROBERT: There is a test? JONATHAN: There is always a test! That is how you achieve tribulation. ROBERT: John wants to know in the same vein if he should call Joe Lopez and to do his books and taxes? JONATHAN: Give me a moment! That may not be necessary but as I have said before if you feel more comfortable in doing so, you can do so. And I realize this thing was given to you by a friend of yours and it may be let us say, a part time situation away, so, if you need to keep busy and this might generate some income for you. Fine! You can go ahead and do it! But as I have told you before in the last area that we ae, let us say, we are taking care of the situation and you will be quite surprised at the resolution because it will be quite beneficial for you and you may not really have the inclination to be occupied in this manner but let just say, if you need that security, you might want to do it for a while and I am not one to discourage one’s achievements and efforts in this area. But I think that it is sort of a waste of time but if you feel more comfortable, I would say go ahead and do it! And try to keep yourself busy and get your mind occupied and then when the time is right and when things start to happen, everything will be settled. And it would be quite good for you! ROBERT: Do you want more to drink! JONATHAN: Yes, please! ROBERT: Would water be ok! Water from the springs where we are at! JONATHAN: John drank all my tea! ROBERT: HA! That was great! I will make you a separate cup! ROBERT: Well, when we were leaving the creek area and on the way back to the car, we met a bull and calf and cow! I was wondering if there was something symbolic meaning to that! JONATHAN: OK! Is that the question? ROBERT: Yah! JONATHAN: Give me a moment! The symbolism, I mean the situation is involving but the symbolism represents several factors, let us say, the cow represents your urges, your frustrations, let us say, your battle between your boyish image and your manly image! Let us say, with your confrontation with your career. The cow represents, let’s go back to the bull, we don’t want the cow yet! The bull represents the situation that you are in. How you are going to have to let us say, being more bullish to overcome the obstacles that you are about encompassing at this time and the protection. Also, the bull represents your desires, the desires of being, having your own cow and calf. The bull represents the symbol of your family! The bull represents the head of the family! The bull represents the desire to get your life together! The desire to meet someone and settling down! The cow represents the need for a relationship! The cow represents the essences of your development! The cow represents the feminine side! The cow represents the need to be on your feminine side! You have to remember that you have your masculine side, and you have your feminine side! The symbol of having both of them together is the symbol of uniting yourself! The calf, the calf represents child energy! The part of you that needs, shall we say, the fun part of you! The lively part of you, the psychic part of you, it is the part that you try to express now! We put them all together and we represent wholeness of oneself! The interconnection of oneself! The being with oneself! Now if we put, my words I am getting tongue tied! My words whatever, you want to call it! Let us say, putting the uhm mm----the whole triangle together which contemplates the wholeness of God. Contemplates the seeing eye of God! Contemplates the Third Eye of God! What we are seeing is a development process, the oneness is there, the oneness is, let us say, becomes connected is the whole. Where the symbolism is showing us the way! Showing us the desire of where to go! And what we are saying here is that this symbolism is telling you that you are perceiving in the right direction. It is giving you a goal to accomplish also the cuffs of the bull. As you know the bull is very protective. The bull is protecting the oneness of the family! The oneness of God! He bull turned and wanted a confrontation which I would not have advised you of not to have done as you would not have survived very well! Maybe you would have survived but in a little battered condition! What I am saying here, the bull represents the strength, fortitude, shall we say the protection, the courage, the ruddiness, the essence of your soul trying to achieve stuff! It has all the qualities, if you notice the bull by its physical tradition represents a true masculine image, the muscles, the strength, all this is encompassing, all this tells you your direction. What we are saying here, first of all we have the completeness or the oneness, then we have the masculine to protect this oneness and by doing this we are attempting to show you your direction, the power that you will need to go into this direction. We are not saying that you have to do this on your own. We are showing you the way and we ae expecting you to follow that way. But we are providing the help to achieve that way. So, even though we take your ego to push it, you may not realize that we are helping you and you may credit everything to your own self, but we are in turn are helping you. So, what we are saying here is the ego is pushing, the ego has the strength, the ego has the fortitude not only because of oneself, but with the help of those entities within you that are helping. OK! Essentially, this was a sign, this was an omen. This was a goal given to you on such a blessed day. For it has shown you have opened yourself into the energy. And the energy is telling you that this is a sign, this is the place to go. And later on, you will see more about this symbol. This symbol will come into your dreams, and you will evaluate what it says to you in your dreams, or you can get it interpreted here. We don’t charge here, you know! But anyway, the symbol is a very important symbol for you! OK! ROBERT: It was quite interesting and with the bull first started the protection stuff and I was given good energy, and I said hello and John was surprised that I would be that friendly. JONATHAN: He was waiting for a confrontation that the whole idea behind it, he needs and expects a confrontation. I think that you need to remember that within your energy, there is a tendency that animals are picking up this energy and are receptive to the energy, they are aware of it. Animals have very keen senses, and they are very psychic in many, many ways. So, he was aware of who you were so being careful otherwise he may have been more aggressive, that is one of the reasons that he backed off. ROBERT: Well, I noticed that he was a little fem.! I have three questions! In the previous session, you were talking about opening up emotionally, first I have to give to myself, and you said, I give when Cynthia was here that while I am socially charming I am not emotional or something. I wonder if you can explain that about the opening up part. JONATHAN: Ok! Give me a moment! All right, I would say, let us define a few items here. As a man sometimes you get emotional. Your situation is not what a woman expects. You have to remember the differences. Number one, that’s what we are talking about, a woman has an emotional side which is very strong side, and a man sort of suppresses his emotions. Ok! But deep down inside of you that is a lot of crap because essentially you have similar emotions. It is just a matter of conditioning. And sometimes when you suppress your emotions, you cause to suppress other things besides, you put up all these walls and barriers, and it is hard for you to get in touch with yourself. You may think that you are in touch with your emotions, but you are really not! You don’t understand how you really feel and sometimes the reasons are that you have all these walls inside of you. And the thing that we are talking about is the removal of these walls. Cynthia was really aware of the situation. She picked up on the statement very well because she was very agreeable because of her perception. And that is one of the areas in which she felt that you weren’t enough of you weren’t sharing with her enough emotionally, not socially acceptable of being outwardly. But we are talking how you really feel inside of yourself and she felt that you weren’t feeling enough according to her standards. I am not going to decide that whether it was enough or not, that is something that you have to work out yourself. That is something that you have to do yourself. But what I am saying here is that you need this, this is not only you. She has the same problem, even though she is a woman that is easier to do but really you have to get in touch with your emotions. We are not talking about, shall we say, the readily available emotions. I mean like feeing sad about something and you are going to cry, that is not wat we are talking about, we are talking about feelings, exactly how do you feel OH! Breaking down the barriers, saying this really hurts me! How do I feel about it! I don’t know if I feel that way! It hurts but does it really hurt? So, my pride is a little tarnished a bit, big deal! Or you may say this really gets to me, this really pisses me off! I am really hurt; I feel like that I am five years old and I hurt! Or you might want to say that I would like to have a good cry! I want to get it out of the way, or I want to yell and get it out of my system! There is a punching bag over there, I want to get this aggression out of me! And you may want to do that! The whole point here is not what you do. It is dealing with yourself. Trying to get deep inside of yourself and finding what your situation is and a lot of times you have to let us say eliminate some of the barriers, some of the cobwebs, some of the elements that sort of block your way, some of the debris and here, there is all this, shall we say obstacles that needs to be removed. Now, we are saying to you, there are things. Let me go back a bit, there are things that we know, we need to talk about, and we are saying how we going to eliminate these obstacles and what we are saying to you is go back to the same stuff. Remember we go back to self-knowledge. First of all, you have to find out what your problems are. If you think that you are a very adverse person, or shall we say that you are an adverse person and don’t know that you are an adverse person. The only way that you are going to find out that you are an adverse person is the input that you receive to make this determination and how do you receive this from an external source, and from internal sources. Now we’ll not going to worry about the external stuff, we are just going to worry about the internal stuff. Because if somebody told you that you were adverse you would say you are crazy. But, than after in a few minutes you would say that I wonder if they were right, you would start looking at yourself and start examining yourself and trying to go through your processes of yourself and examining of what you are, but you have a little bit lf adverse but not much. A little bit and you go in and say Yeah! I see that I am that way! Or we could go through the process of causing a problem and that you have and say this is an obstacle for my life! I have to break down these barriers, and I have to break down, shall we say all the debris that has accumulated and sometimes you may pick stuff up and it doesn’t look substantial. But when you remove it, it may be substantial. What we are saying here, evaluate it, as evaluate everything, don’t not evaluate! In other words, examine and don’t submiss stuff! What we saying here is that we have to first of all, we have self-knowledge of ourselves. The problem is where you say that we have this problem. The position is what are we going to do with the problem. We examine the problem and evaluate that program and ok! we say this is my problem, this is my blockage, and you say how do I correct that blockage and these are the steps that I choose to correct this problem! Now, you have to remember that sometimes you have obstacles within you, and they prevent the knowledge from coming about and these obstacles are fabricated by the ego or by socialization or any other process that may be involved there and what we are saying to you here is that processes can be eliminated through meditation, putting white light within your system. Find to reveal the barriers that are there and how do these barriers, how do we reveal then, very easily by doing the meditation and sending white light through the system, trying to reveal all these dark passages, they in turn will be responding to all the parts of yourself, whether it be an impression or a dream or whatever because it is a circle, the more work down there, the more work will be up to the top. So, what happens is we are shedding more and more light on your problem as you get more enlightened. So, we just go back to the same stuff as we are saying all along because it does work and you experience some areas in this aspect and has worked better and why do you think that you are having all these dreams. This is work, right! ROBERT: Because I don’t have cable TV! JONATHAN: I’ll hook you up there! Then, why do you experience these things and sometimes when you are supposed to be dealing with something and you don’t deal with it and it will come to you, it will force you to deal with it. The situation is that it can be through external sources or internal sources. There is a lot of work that goes on in the dreams and a lot of stuff that you don’t remember but it is a place where a lot of your potential problems get worked out. And sometimes you feel that you don’t have any control of these situations, but you really do and it is that you are not aware of it on a conscious level, so how much control that you do have. So, what we are saying to you here is that there are ways to deal with your emotions. Now, I think it is more practical especially if you are in a relationship that these things, shall we say are exposed a little more when one is not in a relationship. Maybe it would be a good idea to evaluate your past relationships and not look at those past relationships to see if it can tell you about yourself. I don’t want you to dwell on it and be saturated with the past. I think that you should utilize some of the lessons of the past. This is what I think, this is what belongs to me or that belongs to me or if you feel that is too detrimental to you, you can actually have many relationships which I am sure that you would enjoy. ROBERT: To experience the things of the present. JONATHAN: It may be at this time to be more practical for you to look at the past. But I don’t want you to get involved with shall we say, non-enlightened beings. It sort of deter you from your experiences by which it is the process in which we are trying to accomplish. ROBERT: I don’t think that it is possible anymore to do that! Or not for long! Well! There is one theme that emotionally came up again, came up with Cynthia again. It is related to the little child. I looked at the child today in the meditation, he got a little older and bigger. But it seems in the past, I let people, not physically but do what they wanted like I didn’t have the right to be angry, or I didn’t know or how to fight back or something. It is just that I am feeling empty, sad and vulnerable. I have been waiting for someone else to help me or protect me. I now I have to do it! The whole area has been missing because it is like that the whole area of expressing anger or something of being weird when I did the meditation today. I was thinking of a situation that I told John about the dance teacher and it is clear that he was attracted to Cynthia and wanted to get together with her. And he and I are supposed to be friends and so the more I think about , the more angry that I got but impression wise was that pictured like a little kid and I surrounded the little kid with protection. I got the physical sensation when the kid grew a book one and I felt good. JONATHAN: What is the whole thing? ROBERT: It is abut the emotion of anger and protecting myself and knowing when to be angry, instead of letting people walk. JONATHAN: What’s made? Let’s talk about this! What really makes you angry is your inability to ascertain the situation at this time. So, what are we talking about here as you grow up. What we are talking about is the retardation of energy which can happen because of pressures or because of influences during childhood. And you have to get over this; some people take longer than others because they are afraid of the unknown. What we ae saying here to you as you see this child rowing up within yourself and this is within yourself, now this is within yourself, the emotional aspects of yourself have been maturated as they should have. And you are not alone in this area, there are many in this, but we will not get into that. But what we are saying here that the more you evaluate yourself and deal with yourself the more you see yourself, the more you shed light on yourself, you are going to be exposing many, many elements within yourself. As you do this, you have been to unaware of the many parts of yourself that need attention and in your case this is one of the primary ones, the emotional parts of yourself and what we are saying here is you have to deal with the situation. What you have done in the past is that you have not dealt with the situation. You have ignored it or you have let things go and let things ride and what you have to do is ride. By getting in touch with yourself in the moment, the situation rises and deal with the ramification of the situation and put the energy there and the situation wouldn’t occur! The situation occurred because you wanted it to occur! Let us go back to the ramification of this person that was doing it and Cynthia! It occurred because you wanted it to occur, not because you wanted it to occur but deep down you wanted it to occur, you wanted to slap yourself. Let’s talk about this! You see you’re attracting that energy. You are caught by your own insecurity! We are not saying that the person didn’t cooperate with you, but the person did cooperate with you, giving the material for the situation to occur. But deep down if this person wasn’t available and cooperate, some other person would cooperate. So, what we are saying here is that you needed the confrontation, you were unwilling to have the confrontation. What we are saying to you is that you are attracted by your own energy. You attract this stuff! You create this stuff! You create the situation! So, let us go back to this whole point here! Before one gets angry dealing with other people, one has to get angry with oneself! One has to see if you are creating the situation, you can! What you should save done with the Cynthia confrontation is drew the love which you didn’t do! First of all, let us describe two elements here! The first element is on the material level; you didn’t deal with the situation! You should have called this person aside; I think it is very inappropriate to do this. That is dealing with it. But that isn’t the solution, that isn’t going to cure your problem! Because if you were more secure inside you would not generate that energy for that to happen! So, the problem is within you! So, even though you don’t desal with the energy, but deal with the internal, what is more important? So, what we are saying here is what you have to do is go down inside yourself and prevent the insecurity from surfacing. Dealing with it and becoming more secure, developing that little child and bring him up a few years. So, you have that security within you. So, that you don’t have that feeling that you need protection. A child that doesn’t need the protection should be able to protect itself and does this by growing up! As you grow up within yourself and you will not attract the insecurity! You will not attract the situation when you have to deal with it because you are creating it! And the more positive energy that you put inside yourself, the less negativity that you are going to have. And so, I think it will be useless to vet one’s frustration on while you maintain this child kingdom within you. You have to remove that; you have to deal with the stuff inside of yourself. You need to bring light and bring that security that you need inside of yourself. You have to be more open to oneself, you have to love oneself more than you have to get rid of this childhood paraphernalia. This is what we are talking about! ROBERT: I can really feel it in there! I can feel it al the time. It is a real powerful ding-a-ling going on! JONATHAN: It hurts us all the time! We all have that! It is something that we really have to deal with it! ROBERT: I was even facilitating even with the situation even acknowledging that it wasn’t appropriate! He was a jerk to have done that! And I have to confess to myself that he really did that and that was wrong! JONATHAN: You created it and he is cooperating with your creation. It was beneficial to both of you. And he got his problems worked out too! And whether he knew or not he was manifesting your desires. You desired to have the confrontation. The situation that developed you got yourself to engage in an emotional area and gave him on! ROBERT: What is it that he was working on! JONATHAN: I don’t think that is appropriate! ROBERT: I kind of know anyway! And I am going to straighten it out externally, anyway! JONATHAN: I think that the idea that you should voice your concern about the situation. Now he has his problems too! And he has to deal with them himself on his own insecurities because on his end he has to deal with his own insecurities as well. And what we are saying here, since he is not here. I don’t think it is appropriate to address his personal stuff! And anybody else and what I am saying is that you have two individuals that have a situation in which they are dealing with their own emotional problems, and these are servicing so that they are both cooperating with you, and he is cooperating with you. And you both are feeding into the energy creating the situation. I think that you are right on an external level that you have to address it and don’t leave it there and in other words say that I have an experience on an external level and you have to go internally because that is the cause of it. If you have a fever that is causing the disease, you don’t just treat the temperature, you find out what the disease is! It is the same as here! ROBERT: That one is so deep with me! JONATHAN: And from the situation emotionally you were so concerned about that you invented it several times. You were concerned about the situation, and it is sort of hard in your inners, but the main thing is your anger at that which you haven’t recognized. You are angry with yourself! You are angry with yourself more than you are at him! You are really pissed off at yourself! ROBERT: I never thought of it that way! Which is pissing me off! JONATHAN: Don’t try----

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